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Post by Rockstar on Jan 22, 2004 16:17:13 GMT -5
Also, Journey, I don't appreciate you putting words in my mouth. I never said solicitation was alright.
As for the bawdy house question. I'm not sure. Certainly it could be argued that a massage parlour is a public place but what about if you order an escort to your home?
Escort agencies are definitely illegal (when used for prostitution) but it couldn't be public solicitation they're getting nailed on. Perhaps they're only nailing the pimps for pimpin'? This might be a good question for a LE forum.
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Jan 22, 2004 16:44:51 GMT -5
My point is that CPS GonnaBe said that prostitution is legal then you posted a criminal code section pointing out that solicitation is illegal. The question wasn't if solicitation is legal or not. My bad on that, but the section was titled "Offence in Relation to Prostitution" so I thought it was regarding prostitution...The page is here if anyone is interested: laws.justice.gc.ca/en/c-46/41080.htmlI would love to but I can't find one that says that straight out... Strongly agree with you on that. I never meant to imply you said that, if it came across that way, I apologize. I was just saying that if public solicitation is illegal, does that mean private sollicitation is not... I'm not a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination, I'm just trying to understand how these type of CCC sections apply or what exactly they mean/refer to. Cheers. |
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Post by guest on Jan 22, 2004 17:57:01 GMT -5
It is simple friend. I wouldn't tell your BI that you have done it. You will most definately result in DQ. I would then employ countermeasures during my poly to ensure I passed. The poly is crap anyways so who cares.
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Post by MALAKA on Jan 23, 2004 10:33:41 GMT -5
May I ask which department you have applied for or have been accepted to? Don't answer if you feel uncomfortable with the question. I actually had the opportunity to meet a few officers who claim they have gotten pass the polygraph. Now on what areas they were not fully truthful about, is something I do not know. I am aware that the polygraph examinations are kept confidential and are the property of the CPS. It makes me wonder if there are discretions that they deploy internally for each applicant. I mean nobody is perfect, not even Calgary's Finest. I believe that they do assess each individual on the severity of each issue that is found or brought up. To be honest some of the best officers out there are people who have experienced both sides of the law.
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Post by Guest on Jan 23, 2004 16:46:26 GMT -5
Humped twenty hookers?
I wouldn't want to work beside a loser.
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Post by Guest on Jan 26, 2004 15:13:21 GMT -5
Out of curiousity does anyone know the types of questions the background investigators ask your references? Just wondering because one of my references asked me and I didn't know. Never thought about it before.
tia
AJ
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Post by MALAKA on Jan 27, 2004 18:34:33 GMT -5
From what I am told. They just verify some of the information that you state on the forms. They also try to dig a little deeper in by asking for names of other people from your references to verify more data. They definitely try to make sure all details coincide with what you are saying. I assume they will run the names through CPIC and PIMS to see if any vital information can be dug up that way.
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Post by Johnnie Walker on Jan 30, 2004 10:29:50 GMT -5
Are shrooms an automatic dq with cps?
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Jan 30, 2004 11:11:28 GMT -5
My understanding is that it depends on amount, and how long ago...obviously it has to be at LEAST 3 years ago, but it depends on how often you did them. Tried them once, maybe twice shouldn't be a problem...used them regularly for years...probably won't cut it.
Even with MJ, if you were a regular user for say 10 years, quit when you were 25, applied when you were 30, there is still a strong chance they wouldn't take you just because you could easily slip back into regular use again. This goes for anything that could become a regular or was a regular "habit", even spending money or going into debt...
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Post by PATrooper4347 on Jan 30, 2004 14:36:45 GMT -5
I was just reading the above debate on the prostitution, I thought it was interesting. I was unaware prostitution was legal in Calgary. Is this just locally or is it legal through the entire province? I am from the US and am just curious, because Las Vegas is the only place I am aware of in the US that prostitution is legal.
From the debate I gather that there is no law (statute) against prostitution itself, but the solicitation itself, or the means of engaging a prostitute are illegal, a similiar example I can think of locally here, is there is no law on the books that says a minor cannot of alcohol in thier system, (excluding DUI) but it is illegal for them to possess, consume or transport, which means in order for them to have it in thier system they broke the law,
So in turn I guess to have engaged with a prostitue you would have had to break the law of soliciation?
Just a thought... Glad to see everyone still hard at work in persuit of thier goals, good luck all, stay safe
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Post by Boyscout on Jan 30, 2004 14:57:23 GMT -5
Prostitution is no illegal. It is the public solicitation that is. That is why escort services can get around the issue. They advertise massage/escorts/dates...if you then decide in private to have sex and then pay him/her, its legal. But soliciting openly on the street or in newspapers etc is illegal. It is a fine line. Police departments do not look favorably on persons who visit escort services. It just opens up a big can of worms.
See CCC s.213 Soliciting in public
CCC. s.210 Common Bawdy-house
CCC. s.212 Procuring
Sec 213 makes it an offence for both the prosititute and the person seeking the sevices of a prosititute to communicate in public. Both the prosititute and the client can be charged.
S.210 Common Bawdy houses mean a place that is kept or occupied, or resorted to by one or more persons to the purpose of prostitution or the practice of acts of indecency.
So Escort services are on a fine line and thats why a lot of them get raided and charged. If they advertise massages etc and once you get the have sex, its illegal. They skirt around it by escort because you pick up your date for "Dinner" or "movie", and in that private exchange you go home or somewhere and have sex, then pay him/her, its legal. "Not in public place"
The police departments look at it as a moral issue when you apply. In the end what kind a person are you? You are not helping the problem but adding to it.
In Nevada USA it is legal for Bawdy houses...example. The Mustang Ranch..where one goes and picks out their date and go have sex. I don't believe that it is legal in Nevada for prosititutes to solicite on the streets....never really looked into that..
good question to ask PATrooper.....
Boyscout
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Post by Rockstar on Jan 30, 2004 14:57:38 GMT -5
"From the debate I gather that there is no law (statute) against prostitution itself, but the solicitation itself, or the means of engaging a prostitute are illegal"
Yes, as I understand it. But I could be wrong.
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Post by PATrooper4347 on Jan 30, 2004 21:57:46 GMT -5
Rockstar, thanks for the explanation, it cleared up what I was wondering. As for street solicitation in Vegas I don't believe it is legal, although I am not sure, I think a person has to visit a brothel, or some means of an escort, so I believe it is similar to how it works in Calgary, thanks for the insight.
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Post by MALAKA on Feb 3, 2004 14:27:11 GMT -5
The March Class is just short a few people. Anyone have any updates?
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Feb 3, 2004 15:04:24 GMT -5
I still haven't heard anything on my panel. I heard they were short 5 spots for the March class. It still seems odd to me that they are short people for classes but the process is not moving as fast as they say at the info sessions. I thought things would move really quick with CPS...  At this rate I'm gonna have to run the PARE again! Have you got the extra forms in to your file manager yet Malaka? |
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At this rate I'm gonna have to run the PARE again!