Calgary Police Service

[MALAKA]

Yes, I completed the forms immediately. They were a priority for me. The process is quite long, I knew one person, who took 7 years to get in. He definitely had a lot of patience.

[DsWifeprepassword]

Hi everyone,

I'm totally new to these boards. I found them last night and was very thankful for all the tips and advice I came across so I thought I would register (still waiting for my password though) so I could join in. I actually don't entirely fit in the criteria of the boards. I'm the wife of a "Cop to be", not actually the aspiring himself. However, being his researcher/test preparer/cheerleader I'm the one with most of the questions

My husband is trying for CPS also but thought it would be beneficial to have his eyes zapped before the application went in since you can't start for 3 months afterwards so his application won't go in until April. By then he'll have already taken the writtens though, they're up at the beginning of March. Has anyone had laser sugery done? How long after did you get the letter from the dr. saying you were cleared for vision? I'm hoping just a week before they can write a conditional letter and we can get the application in. He takes his first aid in March and his PARE then too (before the eyes).

We're getting pretty excited about the prospect of moving to Calgary and him finally doing something he's always wanted to do. Do you know if volunteer work is super important, ie. with Crimestoppers or the community police dept.? He has so very little time as it is now that it would be hard to add another responsibility before the application process.

Anyhow, thanks for all the input, that's all from me for now.

All the best,
D's Wife

[MALAKA]

From what I am aware of, is that Calgary does like to stress volunteer services. It does not necessarily need to be volunteer work the CPS. They do like to see that each member has a desire to volunteer for the community. Even when recruited, I am aware that many officers are required to do a community project. Where I suspect that some form of extensive volunteer work is part of the job. That is one form the CPS likes to help advance their presence with the concept of community policing.

As for laser eye surgery, I believe that the application process does not necessarily require you to have the operation completed before submitting an application. I understand that it is a plus, but just be prepared for delays and roadblocks along the way. Of course this varies from applicant to applicant.

[Me]

Ds Wife,

Don't bother waiting for your password... it never shows up.

You need to log in with the name you registered with and then click on forgot password and it will be sent to you immediately.

[MALAKA]

Hey a little update directly from recruiting. March class is totally full. A contract has been renegotiated and finalized is what I am told. So the 1st class constable transferring in from Waterloo should expect an increase in pay. So should the other 3rd class constable transferring in as well. New recruits coming in will be in for a little bit of a spike. I do not know the exact number figures though....

[Guest]

3.7% raise. current numbers were posted on CPS website

[guest]

To the wife of the CPS hopefull,

If you are as concerned as you appear to be regarding your husbands application with CPS I would take it upon yourself to investigate the polygraph/interogation your husband will be subjected to. Don't take this stage of the application lightly. Study up on it yourself at www.antipolygraph.org and determine for yourself if you think you should enlighten your husband to the workings of the poly. Don't take this lightly. Other blind sheep on this board are going to bash my post and tell you not to worry. You owe it to your husband to at least study the poly and make that decision for yourself. I didn't and am now disqualified from ever applying to any police force based on the shame polygraph of the CPS. Don't discredit this post regardless of what everyone else here is going to say. Take a look at that site and decide for yourself.

[MALAKA]

I for one will not bash. It is uncalled for, everyone is entitled to an opinion. I believe and and do not believe in the polygraph. I guess I am neutral. I do agree that the machine is capable of measuring several body responses to a question. But the responses to questions can vary amongst people. The way the polygraphist decipher's the responses I believe is questionable as well. They are comparing body reactions or responses, but in my opinion I believe that people can vary on responses to every single question. A thought that runs across the brain during a question can affect the interpretations. I am neutral to the polygraph, but I am very hardcore on pure evidence or perhaps police documentation of definite infractions. I believe everything should be based upon evidence. My biggest question is, if it is so accurate and precise, then why are they not permissable in court? Where as good hardcore evidence is permissable?

Guest, I am definitely not for or against the polygraph procedure, I do though question the validity of it. Actually I would very much value your input and experience with the device and the procedures. I think it would be very educational for all of us. If you are comfortable please comment, as I would like to learn and hear more.

[journey2cps-redux]

For anyone who hasn't seen the new salary info:

	2004	2005
5th Class Constable	- $41,845	- $43,393
4th Class Constable	- $47,000	- $48,739
3rd Class Constable	- $54,722	- $56,746
2nd Class Constable	- $59,877	- $62,092
1st Class Constable	- $64,385	- $66,767

[guest]

Makala,

I appreciate your mature, informed response. This issue is very close to me and based on my negative experience with the poly I feel a need to inform others so they don't make the same mistake I did. I wanted to be a cop as bad as anyone here and to have that taken away from me by one man, without any chance of recourse on my behalf or chance to explain my side of the story was inconceivable and incorrable. I could not believe they took the polygraphers word over mine without so much as a follow up interview or any corraborating investigative followup or proof.

I strongly recommend every applicant read Georges book to prevent them from falling victim to falsified or fabricateed confessions as I did. As I have said before I don't advocate peforming countermeasure, mind you if I knew then what I know now regarding the validity (or lack there of) of the poly I would definately use CM's and make sure I passed that ridiculous test/phase of the appliaction process.

Read that book. It explains what the poly exam comprises to the letter.

[Guest]

guest

email me at [e-mail]

I want to talk to you offlist about the CPS poly.

thanks

[MALAKA]

Guest, that is unfortunate. I believe I have a understanding of what you are feeling. It is quite frustrating, but thanks for the heads up and the suggestions.

I don't know if you could perhaps further elaborate or not? Are there specific questions you could provide more details with? The reason is, I would of course like to get a better understanding of your situation and just evaluate it for my own personal opinion.

I don't know if this would help or not. I have not met this individual personally, but I was this by a close friend of the subject. She was labelled as a deceptive person as well through recruiting and was effectively banded for life from applying. She was described as a liar, particuliarly regarding an instance where at the age of 19 or so. She gave free drinks to a group of friends while employed at a well known Calgary restaurant. They of course said that was stealing. I was told that she took steps to challenge that decision and was granted some sort of pardon from the life time band. Now she is has recently graduated for about a year and is now a member of the CPS.

Although I do not know the steps that were taken to reverse the action, but it was supposedly done. And this particular female was accepted and then put through training. Perhaps if you get an opportunity you could look into this avenue more. As I also do not know the circumstances involving your situation.

[guest]

Thanks from both of you but I don't care to elaborate as I am sure I signed a form stating I would not. I can say however that Georges book details exactly what transpired during my poly. To the letter. Watch out for falsified confessions. I.E. never change your story in the poly interogation from what you have divudge on your personal history questionnaire or during any panel interviews. When, and trust me when I say it will happen, when the polygrapher finishes your poly and says they have a problem with your chart regarding a certain question, never change your story. Don't go nievely fishing for something above what you have already disclosed thinking it will appease the polygrapher or get him off your back. Stick to your original story. Good luck

[MALAKA]

Thank you very much for the input. I shall keep your thoughts and ideas in mind. Please feel free to comment further if you have any other input. I appreciated your views and opinions. Take care, and I wish you luck in whatever endeavours you may want to take on.

[CPS Cop]

Hey Guys,

I remember talking on this web site about becoming a cop! Now I have been for 2+ years! Really cool job. Don't believe tall the rumors, just put your head down and fight for your ultimate goal!!!

What happened to silverangel and her PARE???


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