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Post by MALAKA on Mar 9, 2004 13:42:27 GMT -5
I agree, the application costs can add up to people that are financially constraint. The costs for me have roughly added up over time. The pare every 6 months, the doctor's authorizations, etc. Even for deferred people, they still have to get the requirements up for advancement into the next stage. As much as they say that the process is now quicker, most people can expect delays or road blocks, which in essence will cost money down the road.
I met a former female UK officer, who was applying. She ran the pare 6 times, her file was put on hold during G8. She made it to the interview and passed, but had to take the pare another 2 times, or the polygrapher and physchologist wouldn't even look at her. She failed once and then passed. She said she roughly spent about just a little over $4000.00 with eye corrective surgery and she was made clear by recruiting that no matter what amount was spent, there is absolutely no gurantee that the selection committee would accept her.
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Post by DaveB on Mar 9, 2004 15:43:40 GMT -5
Guest is just bitter ignore them.
No matter what force you go for their will be up front costs. One benefit for the agencies is that it weeds out those that don't really want it. It may weed out some good people but if they didn't want it bad enough then they where not suitable anyway.
The RCMP probably has the fewest upfront costs but 6 months without pay is not trivial. BC forces must now pay for their training but do get paid during this time.
I am lucky and vision is not an issue for me. So my main costs are just getting the needed credits to apply to some of the BC forces.... Although CPS sure is looking attractive!!
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Post by guest on Mar 9, 2004 15:47:17 GMT -5
Jamie you ass. Why do you come in here and make off topic posts like that? Start your own thread. I would entitle it "What do you think about that guest jerk?". Quit wasting our time here by muttling up the thread with posts like that. This thread is for spreading support between us nieve, hyped up, ignorant, fall for it hook line and sinker, applicants trying to get into the Calgary Cowboys! Go poly go, and remember, just tell the 100% truth and you will do fine!
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Mar 9, 2004 17:06:43 GMT -5
 Who's Jamie? 
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Post by DaveB on Mar 9, 2004 18:39:55 GMT -5
I think that guest has alot of problems and likes to say things to get people upset. What do you all think of this jerk?  a non anon guest... |
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Mar 10, 2004 10:25:20 GMT -5
Missed some posts on the previous page. Makes sense now.
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Post by Ds Wife on Mar 10, 2004 18:31:10 GMT -5
Boyscout, you still around? Have any of your references been called yet? I think at this point I'd be telling all mine that the minute they hang up the phone with CPS they need to call me and let me know Staying patient, or have you been printing house listings daily? Where abouts are you? I have to admit I've already found the hotel for if my husband gets called for the interview/poly/psych days. Hope there's some news for you soon, D's Wife |
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Post by Boyscout on Mar 10, 2004 19:29:43 GMT -5
DSwife Yep, still here. Still waiting. I talked with my file manager and he/she stated that they hope to start my background checks by the middle of March and be finished by the end of March or the first week in April. Just waiting to get the phyic test results back...honest, I am not nuts..LOL. I sold my house in 7 days. The market on the south island is crazy. yeah yeah I know, jumping the gun. I have a back up plan if things should go bad. I made a nice fortune in the 6 years I have owned the house...I now have a huge bank account and $$ to put down on a home in Calgary. Its hard waiting. But work and the being a reserve constable keeps me busy. Will keep you posted. Hope hubby does well on the PARE Boyscout  |
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Post by Ds Wife on Mar 16, 2004 17:53:25 GMT -5
Well, my husband took his first shot at the PARE today. Didn't go swimmingly  He would have made the RCMP cut though but he was over 4 minutes for CPS standards. Ran out of steam after lap #4 and then the push/pull did him in. That and throwing himself up against a wall for the falls was pretty tough after being too exhausted from the course. The person at the Y was encouraging saying that a lot of people can shave 25 seconds off their time just by doing it a second time being that you know the apparatus and the course by then. His plan if he failed was to just pay again and run it the same day....being that he felt on the brink of a heart attack that wasn't going to happen So....he'll probably try again in 2 weeks so it won't delay his application getting in. Should have really gone to the practice session but it's only on Sunday mornings and that's really not a good time for him to go so we were hoping to avoid it. Have to maybe give it some more thought for this week or next. Anyhow, just keeping you all up to date. Next week brings on first-aid and then hopefully if he can pass the PARE we'll have the package ready to go in April 2nd. Keep ya' posted, D's Wife |
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Post by Guest on Mar 17, 2004 9:55:37 GMT -5
I thought there was a waiting period before you can take the PARE again, 3 months or something like that. Maybe I'm wrong.
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Post by MALAKA on Mar 17, 2004 10:17:34 GMT -5
No, to the best of my knowledge, here in Calgary, you are permitted to re-take the pare the very next week if you are able to get an opening.
Ds Wife, I think the first round at the pare was a learning experience, pretty sure now he knows what to expect and what avenues he has to take to prepare for it next time, good luck.
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Post by Ds Wife on Mar 17, 2004 11:16:11 GMT -5
Thanks MALAKA, I'm sure he'll do better next time. He said the funniest part was that everyone else passed (there were 4 others) and they were all giving him the "better luck next time" speech and advice on how to improve his time. Thing is that his time was better than 2 of the guys giving him tips but they were RCMP recruits so they still passed I think with some forces you have to wait for awhile before you can take it again but CPS there's no wait time. One girl there ran first, failed, and ran again after everyone was done and passed that time by 2 seconds. I think he may go to the practice session next Sunday since he thinks he'd still like to get some more practice on the push/pull machine. All the best, D's Wife |
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Post by guest on Mar 20, 2004 11:13:54 GMT -5
The trick with the pare is to pace yourself. Sounds like maybe he was a little too pumped and just blew himself out in the first couple laps. I remember someone here saying they say an instructor "briskly walked" the pare and pass. Just tell your husband to pace himself. i think around 30 to 35 seconds a lap is the pace you want to set. Doing the first lap in 30 to 35 seconds seems like you are going way too slow but the secret is pacing. Next time he runs does a practice run maybe you could go with him and call out his time with a stop watch telling him to either slow it down or pick it up. Also during the actual pare your husband can buddy up with someone and have them call out the lap times and he can do the same for him/her. there is nothing in the rules that says you can't do that.
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Post by YC on Mar 21, 2004 2:14:02 GMT -5
my trainer wants us to pace ourselves 20 seconds per lap.(this is for POPAT though, similiar to PARE)she mentioned that we should do our run under 2 minutes, the push and pull around 45 seconds and the vault between 30 seconds.well at least she did it under 2:50 minutes for the POPAT.(not bad for a girl)
good luck ds wife.
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Post by Boyscout on Mar 21, 2004 12:37:25 GMT -5
dswife
I have done both the POPAT and the PARE three times each. For the POPAT I like to average 18sec laps, no vault in the course. Its at the end. On the PARE I like to average 22sec laps. That gives me time if I make a mistake and lots for the push pull, usually around 50sec on the push pull.
I know I should train more for this, but I usually do hiking up steep mountain trails, running up grades, stairs, and weights.
Being a reserve constable I have had the opportunity to put the POPAT/PARE to real life use. Last November I chased a 17 year old male for a block and tackled him in a residents yard. Its alot different running in cop boots and all that gear. My radio holder broke as I was catching up to him, nearly tripped on the stupid thing. I had to stop and untangle myself and then catch back up to him. Thats when he looked behind to see if I was still there, I tackled him NFL style and drove him into the lawn. Had him handcuffed and radioed dispatch one in custody. What a rush that was.
While running the POPAT/PARE you are in shorts. On the street you are in full gear, but have that adrenaline kick which helps ;D
One has to be in shape, some have to work at it more than others. Get him to practise it and pace himself. He will do fine.
Boyscout
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He would have made the RCMP cut though but he was over 4 minutes for CPS standards. Ran out of steam after lap #4 and then the push/pull did him in. That and throwing himself up against a wall for the falls was pretty tough after being too exhausted from the course. The person at the Y was encouraging saying that a lot of people can shave 25 seconds off their time just by doing it a second time being that you know the apparatus and the course by then. His plan if he failed was to just pay again and run it the same day....being that he felt on the brink of a heart attack that wasn't going to happen