RCMP

[Cab]

dalex,
I would recommend getting your Possession and Aquisition Licence (PAL). It is the licence that replaces the old FAC. You don't learn how to shoot guns, but in the course you will handle guns, learn about how they work, different types of guns, types of ammo, and safe handling of them all.

The course is offered all across Canada (local gun/hunting shop would know exactly where). It takes a few days (or evenings) to do the course. You can also just buy the workbook and challenge the course and write the test. You learn the info, but don't get to handle the guns...until the test.

[Bas]

Hi all,

Are there anybody here who is applying for the OPP? If so how long does the process take? I am thinking of getting my certificate of results (C.O.R.) from ATS as a backup plan. This certificate is valid for 3 years(except for the physical fitness component which is only good for 6 months), and it allows you to apply for constable positions throughout Ontario. Not only that, but the behavioural interview(B-PAD) component is a good way to find out if one is suitable for law enforcement positions. Better find out now than 18 months down the road .

Bas

[guest]

You open minded applicants are right on the money. I fell victim to a fabricated confession during my CPS poly. I didn't realize that was the case until three other forces DQ'd me after contacting the CPS for my poly results. I finally put 2 and 2 together (about 4 years later) and contacted the CPS and found out what the polygrapher wrote about me. Pleaded my case and was told not to worry, they secretly videotape the poly (illegally without your conent) and the tape should clear you if what you are saying is correct. I got a call about 2 weeks later saying sorry we couldn't find the tape as we destroy them every 2 years, we have to stand by what the polygrapher wrote.

I had nothing to hide and trusted the RCMP to do their homework regarding the fabricated info they would receive from my CPS poly. I got through the whole application process with no call from the RCMP regarding my CPS poly. I assumed they were above relying on one mans "written opinion", especially a polygraphers, and would either disregard that info or at least call me to clairify. Nothing. Then the DQ letter. I contacted everyone within the RCMP I could think of and everyone kept telling me they could not say! A family memebr of mine (a relatively high ranking RCMP officer) even tried to fish around and was told by the recruiters they could not divuldge the DQing info for fear of losing their job.

I am just trying to enlighten others so they don't make the same mistake I did. If you have taken a poly elsewhere and been DQ'ed, please take the time to clear your name before making other appliations. The police are above any freedom of info and privacy acts. They retain the DQ poly info indefinately and can pass that info on to whom ever they please. If the poly is inacted with the RCMP I implore you applicants to study GM's book to ensure you don't get sidewashed into DQing fabricated confessions like I did. One little mistake like mine and your dream of becoming a LE officer is taken from you forever! It killed me and still haunts me to this day. If I had known then what I know now I might be an officer today. Living my dream. Educate yourself and fulfill your dream. Don't let some pencil necked weasil polygrapher take that from you. That is all.

[DaveTO]

Bas,

O.P.P. process is about 6 months once you get your C.O.R. and apply. By that time you should know if you are on their eligible hire list or not. It's great to have, assuming you can afford to shell out 300 bucks with no guarantee that you will pass.

The new PATI is supposed to be more lenient (with GATB's 50% failure rate, it has to be!) and it is valid for 3 years if passed.

I heard that B-PAD is supposed to weed out only people truely incompatible with policing. It has something like a 99% pass rate, as long as you wear business attire. The nice thing about the C.O.R. is that you can use it to apply to almost all of the Ontario police services, if the RCMP doesnt work out.

[Hert5]

Did I accidentally run into the OPP and anti-poly site again...opps, my mistake.......hold on, is says RCMP at the top....maybe I'm not crazy then.

[DaveTO]

yeah oops! ;D

Bas, better make a separate OPP thread

[Bas]

Thank you DaveTO for the helpful info, I am getting lasik this Sat so I'll have to see how the result is. Well there are basically 3 outcomes: 1) success 2) success with complications(but still a success) 3) failure. I hope for the best but plan for the worst.

Sorry folks I did not mean to get off topic with this OPP talk here, it won't happen again.

Bas

[Hert5]

I feel like the mean message board police. But thats for understanding.

On the laser eye surgery, I had it done 3 years ago and have had no problems since having it. Night vision is excellent, and 20/20 in both eyes........hey, this isn't some medical message board ;D

[rebel2232]

I’m just being curious ... for all that have wrote the RPAT….did anyone score higher than 4.00 on any one category (excluding final score)

[YC]

Dave,

In regards of the OPP question,because I am located back in the West.I have to fly over to take the test?(For certificate O.C.P)?

I heard that they are very competitive,even harder than RCMP?Is that right?

Thanks.

YC

[Cab]

rebel,

Regarding the RPAT, I scored above 4 only in one category, however, my final score was above 4..................so don't worry. The confusion over how they arrive at the final score is a mystery to all.

I think you get engaged as an Inspector upon graduating from Depot if you have the answer to the RPAT final score calculation ;D

[Jag]

Guest,

I would not give up. If you have nothing to hide, I would write to the CPS Chief or the Calgary Police Commision and explain your situation. Then offer solutions.

Maybe you can appeal to redo your Poly again. Since they have faith in the poly exam, then why not use poly to clear you. Of course, you know it might not lend you to a job with CPS. However, you could apply again with them. It may clear you. Channel your frustration to get answers. Suddenly, you will find yourself not frustrated!


However, sticking to our commitment not to discuss Poly on this Thread, let us take our discussion to the Poly Thread. By the respecting our fellow user's wishes, we all might get a little further.


Back to our regular forum, I had a question that some of you can maybe clarify.

After depot training, I understand that when it comes to posting, you get three choice. Are the choice based on three divisions or are they more specific to location?

Anyone?? Jag

[rebel2232]

Thanks for responding Cab!

I thought that I may have figured out how the RCMP calculates the RPAT final score....but that one theory is out the window.

How about this theory, add up each category score, add 5 then divide by 7. Do you come close to your final score? Mine came within 0.01.

PS - I must find out how they calculate the final score. ;D

[rebel2232]

jag,

The way that I heard it works is that there is a big board that has postings on it. You choose three locations (detachments) that you want and they will try and accommodate that request. However....it is ultimately up to the RCMP where you go.

[Jamafs wife]

When it comes to postings, here's how it worked for us.
We had to write down our 3 division choices and hand them in. Then a week or so later, after they told us which division we'd be sent to, we had to fill out another form. This one was abit more in depth. Based on our division, we had to choose 6 detachments and write them down. They could be detachments or areas. For example, we listed southern vancouver Island b/c we wanted to stay here but it didn't really matter where.
The big board you're referring to may be the one they put up in the mess hall at grad. It's got everyone's picture on it with a string from their pic to their posting location.
Hope this helps!