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RCMP
Jan 11, 2004 18:15:05 GMT -5
Post by Bas on Jan 11, 2004 18:15:05 GMT -5
Hey Ryan,
How hours of sleep do you get at depot? I heard that sone don't get to bed until midnight and they start the day at 5pm... Long term sleep depervation really taxes the body don't you think?
Bas
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RCMP
Jan 12, 2004 17:41:32 GMT -5
Post by EMSaddict on Jan 12, 2004 17:41:32 GMT -5
Hey Ryan, How hours of sleep do you get at depot? I heard that sone don't get to bed until midnight and they start the day at 5pm... Long term sleep depervation really taxes the body don't you think? Bas I was wondering the same thing. If the 5-6 hours of sleep is a norm for the weeknights, I can't see how that would aid the body and mind in learning. The last thing I want to do is spend 6 months getting sick and not learning what I am taught. Although it would appear that depot has operated like it does for 120 year with sucess.
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RCMP
Jan 12, 2004 17:46:58 GMT -5
Post by journey2cps-redux on Jan 12, 2004 17:46:58 GMT -5
Gotta love that millitary heritage...I mean when you're doing field exercises you go 72 hours without any sleep other what you get grab while you're marching!! ;D
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RCMP
Jan 12, 2004 18:15:53 GMT -5
Post by Ryan Sales on Jan 12, 2004 18:15:53 GMT -5
Hey folks
Regarding sleep.
BE PREPARED FOR YOUR BODY AND MIND TO BE EXHAUSTED FOR 6 MONTHS!
The physical and mental tole on your body will be immense here. The MOST sleep you will get during a weekday is about 6.5-7 hours, on weekends you can usually get 8-12. Most average about 5.5-6.5 hours of sleep per night.
You will almost certainly experience diarrhea and cramping, probably 2-3X the number of colds/flus you would normally have in a 6 month period, and experience 1-3 injuries.
We lost a guy in my troop to a broken hip. One other had a plate and 5 screws put in his hand, another broke both his pinky and second finger. Another stress fractured his tibia. Personally, I have pulled all the ligaments in my left thump, sub-luxed my right shoulder, and had more black eyes, sprains, strains, cuts, etc than my life combined.
That being said, you push through it. It makes you stronger, and more prepared for the demanding job on the other side. Some people get through here without a scratch, others sleep all the time, others spend their entire time in MTC. All depends on who you are. But, I can tell you this. I'm a MUCH stronger person than I was 5 months ago!
Cheers, RY
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RCMP
Jan 12, 2004 18:27:44 GMT -5
Post by guest on Jan 12, 2004 18:27:44 GMT -5
All that and you don't get paid a cent during training?!!
Can you get insurance for injury. Would WCB cover your injuries?
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RCMP
Jan 12, 2004 18:41:32 GMT -5
Post by guest2 on Jan 12, 2004 18:41:32 GMT -5
Gulp
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RCMP
Jan 12, 2004 19:45:26 GMT -5
Post by Jamjam on Jan 12, 2004 19:45:26 GMT -5
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't WCB there to provide money for a work accident which is keeping you from working and earning a wage? Depot is considered a learning institution just like any college or university. I don't see how you could get WCB from an injury at college, so I don't see how you could it at Depot either. You're not being paid while at Depot, so there are no wages to compensate for.
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RCMP
Jan 13, 2004 11:54:57 GMT -5
Post by guest on Jan 13, 2004 11:54:57 GMT -5
I am a bit of a pesimist but I deal at covering your bases and liability at work. What would happen if you injured yourself at depot enough to dissallow you from ever performing in a physical manner ever again, whether it be as a cop or in your former job capacity. Would you be compensated or would the RCMP just toss you to the dogs as you are not one of their members or being covered by their health plan yet?
Food for thought.
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Impy
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RCMP
Jan 13, 2004 12:51:30 GMT -5
Post by Impy on Jan 13, 2004 12:51:30 GMT -5
I believe that I read somewhere that while undergoing training at depot, the RCMP provides you with health benefits and AD&D (accidental death and disability) coverage. Someone can correct me if I'm mistaken.
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RCMP
Jan 16, 2004 21:49:35 GMT -5
Post by mikegee on Jan 16, 2004 21:49:35 GMT -5
I remember what my LAPD academy P.I Shaeffing(Phys.Instructor) said- "pain is weakness leaving the body ,people"-hold on to that thought for those of you up at your RCMP Depot training, and for those of you training to get into the Depot. That 5-6 hrs at night seems to be what I remembered going through "down here" in Los Angeles,CA while going thru (6)months of training, and I've talked to a Texas state trooper with 8 yrs on the job (on another site) and He remembers the lack of sleep and sickness/injuries.I had several busted lips/noses from boxing, purplish red shoulder bruises from hours of shotgun training(we used the old ithaca pumps- I MEAN OLD GUNS-talk about the feeling that the gun was going to blow up!),choke marks on the throat from upper body carotid techniques,overly twisted ankles,arms,,bruised ribs,swollen legs, bruises/cuts over 60% of my body,etc-it was all the "weakness" leaving the body-yadayadayada!(LOLOLOLOL!!) and worse yet ,the academy was during our Winter here ( avg temp was 40 to 50 in the morning with NO jackets,and 55-60 temp during the day,not counting rain- OKAY FOLKS,I know thats not cold for Canada,but come on- we're talking L.A. here)-but looking back over 14 yrs ,it was all WORTH IT !!!!
The only thing that can beat you, is YOU!! Not the D.Is/P.I.s, not the tests, or physical stress,not the nervousness,only you mind state! Your bodies can do marvelous things if motivated,so dig deep.Good luck.......
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RCMP
Jan 17, 2004 20:02:13 GMT -5
Post by Coltray on Jan 17, 2004 20:02:13 GMT -5
Hello everyone. I was on a few months ago and have been reading all the posts. I have written my exam for the second time in September. I run the P.A.R.E February/04. I am a little nervous already I don't know if you ever feel prepared for it. I have a quick question regarding your Credit check. Is there one done and if so how much does it have on there decisions. I am asking because I got a credit card for a member of my family and she wasn't making payments on it I found this out when te collection agency called me and told me it was in collections. I payed it off that afternoon but my credit rating is now an R9. Meaning pretty crappy. This is worring me. I don't know if a check is actually done and how detailed it is. Can someone help me out in this matter. Thanks for all the imput put in here. It sure helps when you have alot of questions.
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RCMP
Jan 18, 2004 19:01:55 GMT -5
Post by Ryan Sales on Jan 18, 2004 19:01:55 GMT -5
Coltray,
I don't know what WEIGHT it has, but your past and current financial situation is important to the RCMP when it comes to your selection process.
Cheers, RY
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RCMP
Jan 19, 2004 1:34:12 GMT -5
Post by RJB2004 on Jan 19, 2004 1:34:12 GMT -5
Hello everyone. I was on a few months ago and have been reading all the posts. I have written my exam for the second time in September. I run the P.A.R.E February/04. I am a little nervous already I don't know if you ever feel prepared for it. I have a quick question regarding your Credit check. Is there one done and if so how much does it have on there decisions. I am asking because I got a credit card for a member of my family and she wasn't making payments on it I found this out when te collection agency called me and told me it was in collections. I payed it off that afternoon but my credit rating is now an R9. Meaning pretty crappy. This is worring me. I don't know if a check is actually done and how detailed it is. Can someone help me out in this matter. Thanks for all the imput put in here. It sure helps when you have alot of questions. I do believe it's the same kind of credit check that would be done for a loan. I have known several applicants get deferred for credit issues.
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RCMP
Jan 19, 2004 10:29:57 GMT -5
Post by journey2cps-redux on Jan 19, 2004 10:29:57 GMT -5
Yep...I would be one of them. The main thing the RCMP is concerned about when it comes to credit is can you (or your family if applicable) go up to 8 months, in some cases, without pay? If you are in a bad situation, credit-wise then you might not be able to keep making payments and that would make a bad situation worse. The nice thing is that you will have an opportunity to argue your case, so to speak, when you do your interviews. The bad thing in some cases, like mine, is it will take them 10 months before they realize that there is a problem that will mean you can't get a security clearance, but it won't be until after you've passed your interviews though... God I've really gotta stop being so bitter about that....
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RCMP
Jan 19, 2004 14:08:39 GMT -5
Post by Rockstar on Jan 19, 2004 14:08:39 GMT -5
"can you (or your family if applicable) go up to 8 months, in some cases, without pay"
I have a hard time believing this. Few people can go 8 months without pay. If that was actually part of their hiring criteria almost nobody would make it past the credit check. Gotta call BS on that one.
I was told directly from recruiting the reasons are as follows...
debt:
If you have so much debt that you are struggling then you are susceptible to being dishonest, ie. steal money from crime scenes.
bad credit:
it displays poor judgement, irresponsibility and goes against your integrity.
BTW I'm not being judgemental, this is what I was told.
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