RCMP

[BCRCMP wanabee]

Chris11
the package consists of
particulars for you, mom, dad, bothers, sisters, spouse, in-laws including all of their home and work info.
your residences for the past ten years - including dates down to the month.
your jobs for the past ten years - including your supervisors.
military experience
post secodary transcripts
3 character references
history of criminal offences including speeding tix
all personal and business debts (loans, credit cards, etc)
5 'friend' references (be prepared to give more refs later)
hearing, eye, PARE tests
and more!!!

macguy....rushed with 4 weeks? imagine how i fealt with only 5 days as i was leaving on business for 2 weeks. managed to get everything less my PARE done.
just re-did my PARE yesterday...got 3:10, lungs were burning pretty bad at the end.

[Macguy9]

Well, 4 weeks should have been enough time, but just as I finished my application:

-Two of my references moved
-My brother got married
-My boss quit, and I was assigned two interim supervisors

So I had to correct *all* the forms and send them off. Then, after I sent them off, another person moved, and my boss was canned. You can imagine how my blood pressure must have been!

[Goose]

Chris11,
They also want you to prepare a resume and send it in with your package. So you would list volunteer stuff on that. If you're at the RPAT part of this game, I think finding volunteer work to beef up the resume will look like you are resume building, and not volunteering because you have a genuine interest and care for specific organization.

I had two weeks to fill in the forms, get the eye/ear exam, and run the PARE. It was not pretty. However, if you don't have time to do something, just send it in with a note and the expected time you will have the information. The file will most likely sit in a pile for some more weeks anyways. Good luck.

[Observer]

Guest-meguest said:

No swimming at depot... and there are no plans to fix the pool anytime in the near or far future as of yet.

This is interesting. I spoke with someone from recruiting about things I can possibly do to help make the process at Depot more easier. I asked about swimming skills ( I only have very basic swimming skills )and they told me that there is no longer any swimming tests, however, there is a water safety course which is done in the pool. I had also read a post from a cadet at Depot who mentioned that the troop was split into swimmers and non-swimmers. Cannot remember if the post was on this site or not. This was a while back. I am assumming this was for the water safety course ? Well, if the pool is closed, this is fine by me ;D

[Chris 11]

Thanks guys! The package seems very etailed, but I'll just be happy if I receive one ;D

Hey Goose, I see your point about the volunteer stuff, thanks. Do you think I should go ahead anyway and start volunteering though, isn't it better than not having any?..and it should help with my competencies too.

How much emphasis do they put on your application package and resume, do people get rejected at that point, or is it more a formality?

Chris11

[Goose]

Chris11,
Volunteering is always nice....anytime....I just think that having a bunch of new police related volunteer stuff right when a person applies looks bad. I could be wrong. But you are right, you may just get some good experience between now and your interview that you can use as an example at the interview.

As for the emphasis put on the application package prior to the interview....not much. They will do the primary computer checks (criminal record, driving history, police records search) to see if you are at least acceptable there. I would assume that they would also look at your resume and jobs quickly to see if you were stupid enough to put down "volunteer courier for the Hell's Angels" or "volunteered tearing down police barricades at APEC and last 4 WTO meetings"

Don't worry.....if you think your past is too shady to make it past the initial checks then you most likely won't make it past the field investigation.

[horn15]

Stop stressing. The swimming is one hour of throwing a flutter board into the shallow end, that's it! You do not need to know how to swim. As for waiting to here from recruiting your not the first. Every year it's the same. Keep in mind much of your security/background check is done at the detachment level. So, if the boys are busy with other police work then sometimes it takes them some time to complete the check. I should know. It took me two years of waiting to get into depot along with every single person in my Troop. That's from the day you write the RPAT to the day you leave. As for all you none swimmers like me out there my advice to you is not to stress. Remember, the swimming is only one hour and even you can't drown in the shallow end (unless you sit down).

[RJB2004]

horn15 said:

Keep in mind much of your security/background check is done at the detachment level. So, if the boys are busy with other police work then sometimes it takes them some time to complete the check.

Yeah, at the detachment I was a S/Cst at this summer a guys file sat on a desk for a full 2 months untouched. And this was the roommate of a r/m at the detachment.

[Chris 11]

Thanks goose, I have another question..perhaps a stupid one , but I heard that they set the RPAT cut-off for you, within your divison, depending on your background (ethnic) and sex (i.e. the cut-off for a white male may be different than someone of a visible minority). But how do they know if I'm a white male, there were no questions at the exam about it?

[BCRCMP wanabee]

chris11
there was on my exam
i think it was the same part as where u put yer name, education level, etc.
the first 'cut' in the application process is definately race/sex.
white males generally require a higher RPAT mark to get their application package...if u go back through this thread u will see minimum marks any where from 3.5? to over 4.0 for white males. It depends on what div u are in and what the white male average score was for your block.
if u get an application package, u are then on a level playing ground with all other applicants regardless of race/sex...really the only person u are competing against is yourself.

good luck ;D

[Goose]

Yeah, I'll agree with BCRCMP wanabe on the RPAT issue.

Horn15....some of the background investigation is done by retired memebers who only do backgrounds....in my case the majority of it is being done by them. None of my references have been visited by a current active member. Now I know of others that lived or worked in small places in the middle of no where that had regular members do small chunks of the BI. This is in BC.....I might be wrong about the rest of Canada. Anyways, your point about everyone having to go throught the same waiting is so true....two years is just crazy!

[Chris 11]

Thanks Goose..yeah there probably was a question about that but I forget..I was to nervous at that point to remember anything. I think I did pretty good..except for the spelling and vocab maybe...I didn't realize our language has such strange words

Now I must make sure I'm in peak condition for the PARE and work on my competencies -and put the test results out of my mind for a while. Do you have any idea what % of people who make the cut after the RPAT, make it all the way? I don't believe the background check & physical stuff will give me any problems..it seems like the interview is the most challenging part of the process.

[Cab]

Chris11....the question on how many people make the cut after the RPAT is an on going question and everyone has a different answer based on conjecture. So if I may'conject' (won't find this word in a dictonary, but will find it on the RPAT) the unwritten rule seems to be that 10% of people that write the RPAT will make it to Depot. And 'I heard' that 25% of people the write the RPAT will not get an application package. So, in doing the math....75% of RPAT writers will make it beyond the RPAT, so that means that about 14% of the people that get an application package will go to Depot. The rest will fail the interview, medical, or background. It was mentioned before that 1 in 4 make it past both interviews.

Now keep in mind that my math should be correct, but my initial numbers I was working with my be wrong.

Nothing like wasting an afternoon on the web doing math problems, I knew that crap I was learning in grade 9 would pay off some day.

PaulF....good luck on the interview Friday. Maybe ask the recruiter the above question to get the real answer and make an arse out of me

[BCRCMP wanabee]

things are moving right along with me...field investigator came by the house last night. he has already finished off most of my refs and rez checks.
good news for other 'e' div apps...my field investigator said that as long as the investigator in your area is able to do most of the bi in person, the checks that are in other cities or provs can all be done over the phone. ie) not have to wait for 4 different investigators to submit their report. just one of the ways they are trying to shorten timelines.
heres to hopin i will be in depot in ~ 6 weeks.

[Still waiting]

Is this abnormal? I wrote the RPAT in July and still no word...........is this bad news? I am sure they said we would find out our results in 6 to 8 weeks....
I know I know, I'm impatient.......