RCMP

[journey2cps-redux]

Captain,

If your in "E" I think it would be safe to assume less than 6 months after you RMSI. Not many applicants from BC have to wait longer than that...I don't think...I agree with CAB on the schooling situation. If you tell the RCMP that you want to wait until after school to go to depot they will probably tell you to try again at that point, which will be back at the begining of the process...doesn't matter how "good" you may be there is alway sosmeone else that is just as good to fill your spot. It's crappy but true. I would take the spot in depot, if offered, and then finish your degree in 4-5 years...

J2CPS

[YC]

journey2CPS said:

Captain,

If your in "E" I think it would be safe to assume less than 6 months after you RMSI. Not many applicants from BC have to wait longer than that...

But if you lived in two difference countries before,are you going to wait longer than that?Military told me it might took up to two years,I am not sure with the RCMP...

By the way,did anyone know how long this trend will last?We asked the recruiter and he said he have no idea.I planned to apply in 2005 and wonder what will happen...from E Division.

Thanks a lot.

[PaulF]

Things seem to work faster out here in Regina.

March 2003 -Wrote RPAT
April 2003 - Got results -3.98 out of 5
June 2003- Got package and sent in
July 2003- Wrote pychological evaulation
Augst 2003 - Ran PARE 3:53
Sept 2003- Scheduled to do interview sept 19

Check out my webpage www.geocities.com/paulrcmp
it documents what is happening.

[Goose]

YC....I lived in Europe of 1.5 years a while ago and had to do a security clearnace for my government job I have now....and it took a year for the clearance to go through. I think...the rcmp posted in various embassies around the world do this. However, I would assume that their schedules are full and feild investigations are not top priority. Furthermore, unlike Canada where you have a mountie in practically every city/town, the rcmp outside of Canada are only in larger centers, so going to all the plcaes you've lived/worked outside of Canada would have to fit in their schedule.....which could be "well, I'm going to Xeiging, China in a few months...so I'll look up this applicant then"

So I would expect a longer background check....but if you aren't applying until 2005....dude, time doesn't seem to be an issue.

[YYC]

Hi:

What is a diary date? Seems they told one of my references that they had go get stuff back to Edmonton on me ASAP because of a "diary date" coming due?

Also, has everyone who progressed to the interview stage recieved a password for this learning material? This has not been mentioned to me by recruiting and I am almost done.

Thx. YYC

[YYC]

Hi Jag:

Dont worry about the psych re-write. I had to go in on Friday again because I was being defensive, and given a different set of instructions. Not to worry, the doc said at least a 3rd of applicants get called back (makes for good billing I guess). Worst comes to worst and it comes back defensive, well, they just do a formal interview on the couch which I am certain any one of us non-issue people should pass just fine.
Cheers,
YYC
PS - So what is a diary date??

[YC]

Goose,

I have no choice but wait until 2005.Not because of deferral but citizenship.

I have no patience either but will see...

Thanks anyway~

YC

[meguest]

Diary Date = all files generated within the RCMP are given a Diary Date (unless they are concluded at the same time they are generated). This is the date on which the file will be reviewed next or concluded if completed. Any outstanding work on the file should be done by this date... if circumstances are such that work is not completed, it will be reviewed and extended by giving it a new diary date.

In relation to your application and the situation mentioned above... your file manager makes copies of your file to be forwarded to the background investigators. The file manager hands them over to the investigators with "diary dates" - they are expected to have their work completed and returned by that date.

[Jag]

Hey YYC,

Thanks for the assurance!

I hope everything will go well! Even the "couch visit" does not worry me!

The thing that is on my mind is my "Security Clearance". I spent almost 16 years of my life in two other countries. So, that should be interesting!

What I wonder about is how long it will take. When I started the process, I thought I would be in depot by May or June of this year!

I know the call will come!

Maybe next week, maybe next month, maybe next year! Jag

[Jag]

Goose,

I just read your post! My God a year to do a clearance!

Was your clearance to "secret" level or "top secret" level?



???Jag

[Goose]

Jag..it was a 'secret' clearance. My job is with the Justice Department and I was able to work in the position but wasn't able to do the majority of the 'real' work until my clearance got through. So it is not like the rcmp where you HAVE to have the clearance prior to even training to do the job. It is also the last 10 years that they look at...the 'top secret' clearance involves 20 year review of your life (which the rcmp doesn't do...unless information leads them further back than 10 years).

So don't be too worried. Did you know that there is also a 'top top secret' clearance as well. I think it is used in the military and some CSIS agents for counter spy stuff. Anyways, they do full life history, and maintain up to date checks on your finances and other personal info. So lets be lucky that we only have to do a 10 year history.

As for a couch visit to a psych....I want one. It would be nice to have some one physically tell you you are as sane as they come. Then when some one calls me crazy....or says that one of my ideas are crazy...I can produce a certificate stating the opposite

[Jag]

Goose,

You crack me up! That is the funniest thing, I have heard all day! Jag ;D

[Storm]

WOW! I keep meaning to drop by more often and never get the chance. This thread is like hte Energizer Bunny... it keeps going and going and going. I read backa s far people talking about getting posted to LMD. Surrey is in need of people, so is everyone. My detachment Richmond could use an extra few people as well. As far as detachments go to start out in, I am glad I got Richmond. First it has money, that means courses and equipment, my detachment doesn't skimp on little stuff like earpieces or gloves. I got taser certified in my first two weeks here. Since I have been here I have been two courses and havce a third coming up. I asked for Surrey but Richmond is what they gave me.

When looking at postings give some thought to what they will offer you in the way of growth as a police officer. It is great to be action all the time and lots of cool calls. But, it is also good to learn how to investigate a crime well and learn how to not only get there fast, but find them when you don't catch them there (which is more oft than not). give some thought on the career you think you would like and try to find a detachment area that wll help you develop that.

Always remember to keep positive, look ahead and keep your eyes on what is coming.

Storm

[Observer]

So it is not like the rcmp where you HAVE to have the clearance prior to even training to do the job. It is also the last 10 years that they look at...the 'top secret' clearance involves 20 year review of your life (which the rcmp doesn't do...unless information leads them further back than 10 years).


Hi Goose, just to add to your comments, the investigator who did my BI, told me that my new security clearance would be Top Secret. I currently have regular civy secret clearance and also secret clearance from NATO. Maybe this was why ? I never asked and he never elaborated.

[Jag]

Observer,

That was also my understanding.

I had been told by a member that RCMP requires you to clear "Top Secret" and the Municipal Forces require you to clear up to "Secret" only.

Why the difference? RCMP deals with federal secrets and information. Whereas Municipal forces are only concerned with the local government.

Hence, why some that do not clear RCMP Security Clearance have a good chance with the local forces. Jag