RCMP

[therecruit1]

Competition is very tight and recruit numbers are high. Due to this the RCMP has the abilty to defer the people who have committed reletivitly minor offenses because there are just as many recruits out there who haven't been involved in those sorts of things and have the necessary "life experience" which they have gained through other means.
It sucks to get deffered for those reasons. It doesn't make you a bad person but the fact of the matter is in the RCMP's opinion there is somebody else out there who is better suited to do the job and there is nothing we can do about it.

[Jag]

Guest,

It is interesting that you make some intelligent points about learning from your mistakes. Yet when it comes to making a call between right and wrong, it seems you judgement is a little cloudy.

While egging a car, could be written-off as an act of immaturity. Hence "the right of passage" from a child to an adult. How could one put drinking and driving or better yet close friends smoking controlled substance, in the same category? I am sure you realise that the consequences are gravely different. Needless to say that it would create a conflict of interest if one does become a police officer.

I agree with you on the point about having officer that have life experience. Sometimes, good judgement does come from learning from your mistakes. But there still must be limit to this learning curve. If you keep slamming your face into the same wall, you are bound to get an "ugly face". Furthermore, please don't underestimate the power of learning from other people's mistakes.

I am still convinced that in Reb's case he should reapply. However, he does have to take a proactive role in changing or loose his friend. Friendship is a two way street and good friends don't put each other in compromising position.

Becoming a police officer, is not a decision that one should take lightly. We should be proud that it is guys like DaveTO, Macguy and Cab that are going to be patrolling our streets. Yes, life does have its shades of grey. During these not so defined situations, I am glad we are intrusting the decision making to men and women with integrity.

Don't get me wrong but I can understand how devastating a deferral would be. I would also be angry but probably at myself. Jag

[G]

Guest, people aren't taken for their word no more because people lie. Isn't that what DQ'ed you from CPS....via confessing to something at the poly interview that you didn't disclosed when asked earlier. Then this 'lie' caught up to you at the field investigation part when applying to the rcmp?

[RJB2004]

Guest-BCRCMP said:

RJB2003

unfortunately not all of us can say the same. in fact u are a very small percentage of the population. i am not saying that people should exibit these poor qualities, but that it does not make u a bad person if in the past u have. although on paper some one who has never participated in this type of behavior might be considered an ideal mountie, in the real world, officers are expected to show empathy and compassion. if u used to have a friend in college that turned into a junkie, u would likely be better abled to show respect and sympathy towards similar persons. to be an effective police officer u should have a varied life experience, both good and bad.

youthful disobedience and bad behavior also helps shape your own personal morals and values of what is right and wrong. the rcmp are looking for recruits that have formed their own morals based on their life experiences. At the same time their morals should also reflect what is considered the morals of canadian society.

i have made mistakes. i have learned from them.
i know people that have made mistakes. i have learned from them.
i no longer make those mistakes and i want to help people that have not learned yet. i think i will be good at it.

Thanks, I work for the RCMP now.

And I wasn't saying I have never encountered drug users or stuff like that in the past. I don't wander in a daze of ignorance. Just I knew to be a mountie you cannot be around those kinds of activities. Even if you can justify them later as "life experience".

[Rexina]

Re: the current debate on whether or not past "juvenile" and "harmless" criminal behaviour should be grounds for deferral, nobody seems to be considering what I feel is an important aspect. Imagine if you will, listening to these two situations as an interviewer:

"Yeah, like 10 years ago I threw rocks off an overpass at passing cars because I was hanging around with a bad crowd and they talked me into it. It's not like it's a big deal though; I never actually hit one. Oh, and I worked in a gas station around the same time and stole a few bags of chips. But I put in quite a bit of extra work, so it evened out. Besides, that was SO long ago......"

Compared to:

"Yes, unfortunately at one time I was caught up with a bad crowd, and was involved in one incident of throwing rocks off an overpass at passing cars. It's really embarassing to think about it now, and I'm really thankful that I didn't actually hit one. It was because of that incident that I decided to find new friends. I also used to work at a gas station, and I ate chips on my shift without paying for them. At the time I thought it was justified by the extra time and effort I put into the job, I didn't see it as "stealing", but of course now I know better."

Accountability is huge.
Who would YOU defer??

My point is, that the attitude toward the behaviour is very important, and seems to have been totally overlooked in this discussion.

Rexina

[YC]

Rexina make a good point here.I guess we should give it a rest.The decision is lies with the officer that is experienced to make such decision.

[macguy9]

Short and sweet: I passed my security interview. Very stressful.

I was told that someone else would schedule my RMSIG interview and that the poly would happen sometime before that.

[Jas]

Way to go macguy9! ;D

Was hoping you would have some good news for us today - Congratulations!

Jas

[Impy]

Good for you Macguy. We needed a win.

[Rexina]

Congrats, Macguy! ;D ;D Well done!

Heave a sigh of relief, and gear up for the next step.....

Way to go!
Rexina

PS Hey, doesn't this mean you can go on ride-a-longs now?

[Jag]

Macguy,

Congratulations! Like Imply said, we did needed this win!

Simply fantastic! Jag

[macguy9]

Thanks for all the congrats, guys. Almost makes a guy feel welcome. ;D

I suppose once I've done the RMSIG that means I can do the ridealongs, but if what the interviewer said holds true, I may not have time to go on any!

The interviewer said that if my RMSIG and poly go well, that I could expect to be in Depot by December of this year. I'm still a bit shell-shocked by that... as I was expecting next July at the earliest, based on the experiences of other cadets.

If I pass the RMSIG, I won't have much time to get my affairs in order. I'll have to sell my car to free up some cash, and arrange a leave of absence with the company.

Wow....

[Jas]

Finally got that phone call ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

" Troop 14 on August 24th "

and I am definitely looking forward to seeing some of you there!

Jas

[Jag]

Wow Jas,

Home run for the team!

Congratulations! Jag

[macguy9]

Holy crap!

Congratulations Jas! Great news! Be sure to keep us updated from Depot!