RCMP

[Bas]

Best of luck MacGuy, remember to keep the shinny side up and the greasy side down my friend. ;D

To our guests, what you said about the applicaction, interview and the poly carries more substance than the previous 20 pages combined, you guys have really shine a light to my approach. Sometimes it hurts to be too flat out, espeically under interview situations.

[Another guest]

Good luck macguy9....honesty is always the best policy.

Bas....it sounds like you are swinging to the may not disclose side. All I can say is that if you are afraid to disclose anything because of the possibility of a DQ....then dude, you will be burned on the poly no matter how hard you pucker your arse.....and you can kiss policing good-bye.

By the looks of where you are in the process Bas, I would think that the poly is going to be part of your application.

Besides.....if during the field investigation the member smells some activity that you did in your younger years, and you didn't disclose it......I hardly think you will convince them that "oh, it was nothing...I didn't think that 'have I done any other criminal acts' meant punching the crap out of people and smoking hooch"

[Bas]

Absolutely not Guest,

Honesty is the best approach, you are correct, even if I was able to pull a fast one on the field investigator, the poly will catch up to me. That is NOT what I wanted!!

The officer at the info session says to be as honest as possible when filling out forms, I intend to do so.

Thanks for your input Guest.

Bas

[BeenThere]

i ran across this site while filling my time figuring out my life.

i applied to the rcmp about three years ago, made it through the process, and began training at depot. 5 weeks into my training i was called into the commanding officers office and my training contract with the rcmp was cancelled. i was kicked out of depot.

why you ask. well, during my interview i didn't disclose a theft that i had done at work when i was 19. ten years later, as i am happily at depot, a co-worker of mine from years ago decided that he would tell the rcmp about this.

in talking to members, i might have made it through the interview if i had disclosed it...the theft was under $50 in merchandise. but now my honesty and intergity were in question, and that gets you kicked out of depot....not due to the 10 year old incident, but due to my lack of telling the interviewer.

so after all the embarassment i endured with family and friends, I now find myself working a crap job, but going back to school in september to work on a new career.

if it is detected that you were misleading at your interview, the rcmp may discharge you at ANY time in your career for an irregular appointment.

if the polygraph was around, i would have most definitely disclosed this.

my advice.....is be honest and upfront. don't end up having a dream crash on you

[Jamaf]

For all of your info the RCMP look for HIPCAR
Honesty
Integrity
Professionalism
Compassion
Accountability
Respect
from its members. This is what they would like to see shining through in its applicants.
I agree its a long process but worth it in the end. If you didn't make it the first time then try again. There were a number of people in my troop that had tried a few times and finally made it to depot.
And for those of you who are being told that a caucasion male doesn't have a chance. My troop was made up of 6 women and 24 men all of which were caucasion except two.
Good luck to all of you in the process.

[Jag]

Reb,

I am sorry to hear that you did not pass the security interview. However, your integrity is commendable. You might have lost one battle but you have actually won another one. In the days of corporate cover-up and lies it is good to see someone standing firm.

I am no expert but I think you should apply again in two years. Loose the associate that smokes pot or better yet get him to change. In your next interview show them you are serious and that you have taken proactive steps to improve. I am sure it would bring great pride to most people on this board, to have someone with your level of integrity serving on the RCMP.

As for those, that thinks a lie here and there is okay. You are promoting the wrong thing. Without your integrity you are no better than the criminal that you might be chasing. Yes, police officers are not perfect.

As for cadets claiming that they got through by merely withholding information. I will take it with a grain of salt. It is a matter of time that their past will catch-up with them. Especially in the day and age when "big brother" is always watching.

Good luck Reb! Jag

[rebel2232]

Thanks again for your support and words of encouragement. Much appreciated.

Jag, your comments touched my heart and lifted my sprits. I do plan to improve my situation and re-apply in 2 years. I am going to demonstrate that I do deserve to be a member of the RCMP.

Reb

[Cab]

Interesting posts on honesty, etc. I find it amasing that applicants on this forum would discourage honesty....by omitting info at an interview. At the security interview, there is a catch all question to give applicants the opportunity to state past mistakes that are not directly asked.

Kudos to you Rebel for sticking to your guns and being honest. It is too bad that not all people have the guts to admit that they have made mistakes....and yes, sometimes thoses mistakes can effect your chances of joining a police force.

As for the previous comments on former prostitues becoming mounties and other criminal stuff....come on.....firstly, who would admit this to their co-workers. I for one would be calling up recruiting asking them to take another look at a members security clearance. And secondly, if you take everything on this forum as true genuine facts...reconsider your career goals in policing, because you will be truly fooled by the liars in the real world. Just remember that no one except George M. uses his/her real name on here.....any yahoo can post what they want just to stir debate.

Good luck on that interview macguy9. Don't forget to disclose that you posted a 'hottie' on the internet ;D

[Maverick]

Am I missing something here? Should a person that was involved in theft and vandalism, and committed assault be rewarded for his honestly and let into the RCMP? Ahhhhh nooooo. Does even one person here think that Rebel should have passed the security interview??? Thereseems to be an attitude from some on the board that they should have said "Theft?Vandalsim? Drugs? Assault? well at least you told us, welcome to depot!". I'm sorry but competition is a little tighter than that.

my 2 cents

[nobody]

i don't know rebel in person,but i am sure everyone had done something stupid before.if it's sexual assault,i am sure the interviewer will ruled him out immediately.but we are no interviewer either.if the interviewer asked him to re-apply in two year,why not?if it's something RCMP would not tolerate,i guess they will terminate him forever.

don't be too judgemental.nobody is a saint here.and i heard it over and over by the recruiting officers,"we are not recruiting an angel here"people make mistakes,but be honest and learn it as a lesson.

i guess someone ought to be a little bit ...

[Goose]

Mavrick, I agree. Honesty is not a sudden release from accountability. This is not catholicism where you confess and all past actions are erased. Based on the info Rebel provided, I would have reservations in hiring him too.
I think most on this board would agree too, I think people were just offering support as it appears rebel has matured past that stage in his life. However, like I said in my third sentance, your past action are a picture of who you were and influence who you are.......it is pretty dam risky for the rcmp to ignor criminal activity only becasue your were crime free for a number of years.

And who is the fruitcake that keep's giving advice that "if you are crime free for three years, you will be ok at the interview" WOW, do you really think that? "Well, it has been three years and 7 months since I last stole a car and attacked that guy...I guess I'll be a cop now" Come on folks, lets not live in wonderland.

'Nobody guest', no one is a saint....correct.... but lets be honest here. As an adult, if you are still vandalising, stealing, assaulting, then I don't want to place the trust in you to be a guardian of my community.

Rebel, sorry for the ride I'm taking you on, but the issue has to be made on both sides......we don't know you aside from your post name here, so I don't think it matters. Consider it free introspection.

[rebel2232]

Mavrick and Goose,

I fully understand your points about my previous actions not being up to the standards of good moral character. However, you have to understand that because I stole pop and chips from my employer, threw 1 egg at someone and stole some wood from a construction site to build a camp fire a couple of times 10 years ago should result in me being deferred? I just graduated high school and was a “follower” and immature at that time of my life. Now I have matured, I am involved with a community crime watch program, have been in the project manager of several large scale construction projects including a 5 million dollar project, have smoked pot only 2 times and have been clean in the past 9 years, and I have only been drunk two times in my life (both times I slept over at the house I was drinking at). Look, my actions 10 years ago could NOT have killed anyone or caused anyone significant loss of money….it was petty crime.

As for the being around people that smoke pot, they did it when I was around twice. I bet we all have friends that smoke pot, but I had the guts to admit this in my interview.

As to the 3 years crime free thing….here is a quote taken from the Calgary Police Web Site for Minimum Standards For Employment.. “no criminal activity within at least three years preceding application (meaning any undetected crime and/or involvement at any level, including illegal drugs” (http://www.gov.calgary.ab.ca/police/jobs/frame1.html)

Remember, that we all make mistakes in our lives…we are human. We cannot change the past however we can change the future.

PS- thanks Cab for you support

[Goose]

Point taken Rebel,
The three years crime free stuff that Calgary states is not as true as it may seem. They don't specifically state it, but are refering to the most minor of crimes...ie downloading an mp3. It is obsurd to think that you can do the occasional crime and take a three year break and become a cop. And history has shown that the rcmp is also more strict on its standards in relation to security clearances.

Like I said:

"Well, it has been three years and 7 months since I last stole a car and attacked that guy...I guess I'll be a cop now" Come on folks, lets not live in wonderland.

[Maverick]

Jag, have you heard from recruiting recently? What stage are you at right now?

[Jag]

Maverick,

Things took a little bit of a detour for me. Some of my orginal lab work did not make it to RCMP Health. So, I got that re-done last week. This Friday, I have my recall exam or stall exam with the RCMP Psychologist. I guess to check my screws! Jag