RCMP

[BCRCMP wanabee]

if anyone is going for their interviews, you have to have had a squeaky clean 2 year period. that means no drugs, no arrests, no charges, minimal driving tix, etc and no close association with anyone that has. of course this will preclude everybody. the interviews are as much about being a good law abiding citizen as being able to bs and sell yourself. of course don't lie, but only tell relevant info and examples. don't say any more than what you have to. almost everybody has drank and drove, vandalised, fought or done drugs. it is how you portray and reflect on those instances that will determine if they were 'too' bad. u should know if there is something that will come back and haunt you. everybody has morals. if you can't justify it to yourself, you won't be able to justify it to the interviewer.

[Maverick]

Rebel, that sucks, but if you weren't the one smoking the joints why would you even mention the associates and why talk about the incident where some friends vandaled things if you did not partake. I think that you are very honest and should be commended on that, but it's like when we all discussed the mp3 issue, don't talk yourself out of the job, if they don't specifically ask you about that stuff, I would never have mentioned those things. I think people get in a confessing mode when they get there out of nervousness, but remember they don't need to know every detail of your life (especially if you did not partake in the questionable incidences, they should never come up in in the interview.)

[guest]

These police forces are almost impossible to understand.

They want pristine honest applicants yet when you disclose your past they hammer you on it. They are shooting themselves in the foot. They are breeding a situation where it is not in the applicants best interest to be completely honest. Of but don't worry the poly will get to the truth. BS

The RCMP is clearly saying (indirectly) you would have been better off not telling them about any of the stuff you happen to witness or be in proximity too. Any one reading this message board is going to conclude that the RCMP don't reward honesty and don't take into account your person or maturety since the incidents. Yes those were undetected activities but what are the chances they would have ever come to light?? Slim to none.

Applicants reading this are going to think twice regarding what they divuldge in their interviews.

This is similar to why I am so addimate that everyone learn about the poly before taking one. They are crap just like it is becoming apparent that being honest during your interview is crap.

Rebel, do you think that because you were in the proximity of someone smoking pot or because you happened to vandalize something as a kid will make you a crappy officer?? Bull^%&(!!

To everyone else out there reading this stuff, take it to heart. Don't go sterotyping and say that rebel must not have been cut out to be a cop. This sort of thing can happen to anyone if they aren't prepared. Blindsided.

Rebel, I hate to say but waiting two years and applying again will probably be a waste of your time. They aren't going to change their stance. You are going to have a lot of thinking to do. Remember that if you apply elsewhere and disclose your application and stage of differal any new force will contact the RCMP and probably defer you too based on your RCMP interview.

[Bas]

well said guest!

I will be very careful when it comes to disclosure of information.

Sorry about your DQ rebel, best of luck in your future endeavours.

Regards,
Bas

[macguy9]

Question: Do you have to be multilingual in order to be promoted within the force? Can any existing RCMP members confirm that?

[Guest]

Rebel,
I know a police officer that "omitted" certain aspects of her life during the interview. Similar to you, she was involved in vandalism, theft and drug use. She now states that if she had not omitted those events she would not have made it to Depot. I have lost my whole respect for the application process with the RCMP. The only ones successful in the interview are angles and ones that can lie well. Honest applicants that have made poor decisions in the past get screwed.

I don't think you should have been deferred for those instances.

[BCRCMP wanabee]

i am no member, but from what i know promotion is no longer based on who you know or time in like it was in the past. everytime u are eligible for promotion, u will be required to write a test and be interviewed. i doubt language testing is part of the test and unless the position requires a second language specifically, it should not make much difference. however, the rcmp is always eager to promote eligible females and minorities. having a second language, and in turn a second cultural background, will only aid u in advancement.

[guest]

Same with me guest.

I have a relative in the RCMP and he told me stories of cadets that were bragging about how they got in and lied during their interviews.

One cadet used to get into fights and assault people on a regular basis. Others that did drugs and never mentioned them. If I recall correctly one used to prostitute herself for money and is now a fine upstanding officer in red.

Honest applicants are definately losing out. The RCMP practices are breeding liers and NO the poly is not going to weed out the liers. The poly is going to weed out the honest applicants and the nieve.

[macguy9]

Again, we seem to be beating this....

[Bas]

who is the hottie in the picture? ;D

[guest]

Macguy,

You might just change your tune this Monday should something like this unfortunately happen to you.

Don't dismiss any info you might obtain on this message board. Take it all in regardless of what you think.

To the people that this has happened to this is far from beating a dead horse. Their dreams have just been shattered and they are selflessly divuldging info in an attempt to prevent it from happening to others.

Say Thanks.

[Another guest]

The last two pages of talk on lying, omitting stuff, and otherwise misleading your interviewer are all good reasons to bring on the poly. Yes, a few nervous nellys will fail the interview for no go reason, however, a bunch of liers and former/current criminals will fail too.

BRING ON THE POLY

Macguy9.......you didn't answer the question, who is the babe in the photo? Maybe I'll apply to the Alaska State Police.

[therecruit1]

guests,
Are you an applicant with the RCMP? Or are simply here to warn us about the horrors of the polygraph.
You say you have lost respect for the whole application process. This system is not perfect, if you can find a application process for any other police agency that IS perfect I would love to hear about it.
Maybe they should throw all the standards out the door and hire everyone regardless of their past.
I'm not saying that saying that Rebel should have been deferred but why if he is in the application process for a police dept is he hanging around dope smokers regardless of whether or not he was using them. Yes its pretty minor and probably not even worth mentioning but the fact is he did mention it along with a bunch of other things and now he is paying the price.

Is withholding certain things right or wrong? Does it speak to your character and your ability to be a P.O. if you don't mention certain things? Should people be deferred for reletivity minor things that are disclosed?
These are all complicated questions and personally don't know where I stand on these issues.
Guest, maybe you can enlighten me on these and how we can make this system better.

[macguy9]

I don't know who the hottie is in the picture, but she lives down south... not in alaska! I'm not sure what state though.

And 'guest', I'm not dismissing anything you or anyone else on this board is saying. I think everything said here has value, despite what you might think.

What I am saying is that there's nothing we can do to change the interview/poly process. It's here to stay, and we have to live to learn with it. All we can do is go through it and deal with whatever consequences arise, bad or good.

I think we've all heard the opposing viewpoints on the poly and how 'fair/unfair' the application process is. I don't object to people telling us how their experience was with the interview, I just object to repeated complaints on a subject that we are powerless to change.

Sorry if that sounded a bit rambling...

And if I get deferred on monday, don't worry, I'll let you know why. And I'll keep on trying too. I'm not going to let a setback like that stop me. ;D

[BCRCMP wanabee]

macguy,

either way, good luck.
just use common sense.