RCMP

[guest]

White males are without a doubt at a disadvantage. They require a significantly higher mark on the RPAT to get their package and continue in the process.

The RCMP needs to take the best person for the job. Highest marks should get a package period. Applicants shouldn't even be disclosed according to their sex or race. They should be numbers. Pray tell why would more minorities make the RCMP a better force when they can get accepted with lesser marks on the screening exams? I could care less what race or sex the officer was as long as he/she was the cream of the crop and the best at what they do.

Having the RCMP ranks reflect the cultural diversity of Canadas population is mere window dressing and an attempt by the whining Liberals to buy votes from a few squeeky wheel affirmative action/politicaly correct crusaders.

[rebel2232]

Hi all,

Well….I just had my security interview … bad news…I was deferred for 2 years. Just like others on this thread…it is tough and quite discouraging. I was 100% honest in the interview, but it looks like some of my poor judgments in the past (~10 years ago) have come back to haunt me.


Reb

[BCRCMP wanabee]

women and minorities posses 'skills' and attributes that can not be measured by tests.

do u expect male officers to strip search females?
do u expect white males from pei to be welcomed with open arms into a rural native villiage in bc?
enough of canadian society will not accept a white male police force that the rcmp must modify their recruiting

it is difficult to measure language, culture or religion.

as discouraging as it is for us white males, we must accept the fact that in order for the rcmp to be respected by canada, it must reflect the peoples that make up canada.

don't get me wrong, i will whine all day about how unfair it is that 'she' got in even though 'she' scored much lower and has less experience. us white males are definately at a disadvantage.

[therecruit1]

Reb,
Sorry to hear the bad news, you seem to be taking it o.k. Did they make it sound like your chances would be better when and if you re-apply?
If its not too personal what sort of things did they have problems with.

[Jas]

Reb,

Sorry to hear your news

Good Luck with whatever you decide to do.

Take Care,
Jas

[YC]

Sorry to hear that Reb.If it's something you can do to improve,then go for it.Best wishes~

[YYC]

The RCMP sets target selection at the point of RPAT, which is were we see high white male cut off scores as opposed to others. Once we, as white males, pass this point (get package) it ends there. The recruiting numbers of the RCMP right now make it so that if you make all the qualifications, your in. There is no selection at the end, ie they will take an aboriginal over a white male. Simple. I'm a white male, I waited many years to achieve the cut off, and now, I worry no longer... past that point. Plus, WM cut off is its lowest in history.

Hi Dave TO: The RCMP does not screen your urine or blood for drugs, etc... A routine urinalysis is performed as well as a blood CBC. There is not toxicology included in your lab work. The only ones that see and touch your blood and urine are lab techs at whatever health clinic / lab you attend, and they only follow the requisition from the force MD which does not include screening.

Bye
YYC

[Captain Airport]

rebel2232 said:

Hi all,

Well….I just had my security interview … bad news…I was deferred for 2 years. Just like others on this thread…it is tough and quite discouraging. I was 100% honest in the interview, but it looks like some of my poor judgments in the past (~10 years ago) have come back to haunt me.

Very sorry to hear that. If you're comfortable talking about it what were the "poor judgments" they nailed you on?

[Another Guest]

Joel, sorry to hear about the interview. Was it the 'stupid tickets' that got you? Did they say that two years would be enough time to improve the situation?


BCRCMP wanabee....good point in responding to 'guests' comments adout 'only the highest scores..blah, blah' Guest should ask himself the following questions if he thinks that white males should take most of the policing spots: How do you do undercover work or get informants in an East Indian, Asian, Native, or other ethnic community? How do become part of a community that is based on an ethnic orgin if you are not of that ethnicity....community policing involves getting involved. How do you maintain a public preception of a diverse, non-racist, unbiased police force if it is all white males? And you are fooling yourself if you think public perception is not a HUGE part of policing.

And to answer your question BCRCMP wanabee, I am in BC and I am waiting for my medical and security checks to begin.

[rebel2232]

Thanks all for the condolences on my deferral.

I would rather not be too specific as to what they “nailed” me on, however I will describe the poor judgments as “immature high school stuff” (not B&E’s or anything like that). The other item was more recent which I will describe as this…. “an incident occurred by others in which I was not a participant, however I was too close to the incident”.

The recruiter stated that I can apply in 2 years, however I will need to make a few changes, however I still would not be guaranteed to pass the security interview as the competition is very tight. Obviously I can not change the past….but I will make better decisions over the next 2 years.

At least that I can say that I told the truth during the interview…yes, not getting past the security interview is upsetting and my dream of going to Depot in the new year is gone, but I can say I have Honesty and Integrity.

PS - It wasn't the "stupid tickets"

[guest]

Just curious...how long ago was high school Reb?

[guest]

Rebel,

You say it was stuff you did around 10 years ago?? I can't see them deferring you based on some tickets you received 10 years ago??

They also alluded that you may have trouble passing the interview again in two years?

Where you too honest?? Did you spill the beans regarding some potentially disqualifying thing you did in your past.

The police are not super human and expect you to make mistakes but don't go spilling your life history to the interviewer. Only divuldge what you are asked. If asked if you have ever stole anything give them one maybe two examples of when you stole money from your moms purse for icecream. You may think that they might take into account your complete and utter honesty but in the end a disqualifying addmision will put you out of the running indefinately. As one RCMP member told me "Don't confess yourself out of a job".

[guest]

Sorry Reb I thought you wrote it was the tickets.

Stuff you did not do but were too close to the action?? What do you mean by that?

Something doesn't smell right.

Maybe you were over eager trying to impress the interviewer and give answers or some sort explaination or example for every query?

Are you able to elude on what transpired so as to potentially help others not to make the same mistake?

[Rebel2232]

Ok guys, here is the scoop, bare with me because I am quite embarrassed with these events and I fully regret being involved with at all.

After graduating high school, about 10 years ago, I was involved with the wrong crowd. I stole from my employer, I was involved with a group of individuals that assaulted people by throwing things (I partook once), and I was associated with others that were involved with vandalism (I was never caught in any of these events) All of these activities took place while I was under 20 years of age (when I was immature and stupid)….I’m almost 29 years old now, mature and have had full respect for the law since being involved in these incidents, but because I was an adult when this stuff happened, it doesn’t look good.

The other item is that I associated myself recently with individuals that smoke joints occasionally. I did not partake in this event (and haven’t for 9 years) however, I was too close to the action on two occasions.

The seriousness of these events that I disclosed were explained to me and I fully accept the outcome. As you can see, I cannot change the events that occurred 10 years ago, however I can change the most recent event. This whole experience has opened my eyes and shed a new light.

I thought that being completely honest with my past would outweigh the negatives, that was not the case. I will tell you that I was commended for the positives that I presented in the interview: being honest, my financial stability and my amount and timing of past drug use.

Reb.


PS – I don’t feel that I divulged too much information, but maybe I did. I wanted to be honest…maybe I was too honest. I will probably try again in 2 years and we will see what happens.

PSS - I was told that the poly has been implemented and that they will use it as they feel necessary.

[Bas]

Man I can't believe minor acts like that got you disqualitfied... damnit!!!!

If that's the way things are going, they might have to start recruiting from preist schools, jesuschrist!!

Bas