RCMP

[Bas]

speaking of the poly has it been implemented yet?

[guest]

Bas,

I don't think so...I think it would be a couple of years away, it at all. If the RCMP implements the poly it would be the largest of its kind in Canada...which means it will cost BIG dollars. And where will those BIG dollars come from? Do some searches on the net and you'll come across some newspaper articles on the poly.

As to Guests comments about money issues....take out a student loan if you can't afford it. Hurting for cash for a year is a small price to pay for a career that only a few can achieve and will enjoy for the rest of their life.

[Bas]

Guest-guest said:

Bas,

I don't think so...I think it would be a couple of years away, it at all. If the RCMP implements the poly it would be the largest of its kind in Canada...which means it will cost BIG dollars. And where will those BIG dollars come from? Do some searches on the net and you'll come across some newspaper articles on the poly.

As to Guests comments about money issues....take out a student loan if you can't afford it. Hurting for cash for a year is a small price to pay for a career that only a few can achieve and will enjoy for the rest of their life.

Thank God!! I hope they don't make me take it. Yeah the poly is craptolla, it is not even admissible in court. The rcmp is going to be wasting big bucks implementing it.

Folks, do you know how many applicants the rcmp receives per year and how many troops they send out to depot annually? I am interested at the stats because of the LONG waiting time and money concerns during depot.

Bas

[guest]

10,000 applications per year according to their web page.

Approximately 1200 cadets per year through depot at 24 cadets per troop and 50 troops per year.

[Guest]

I;ve read that 250 should be going to Depot from BC alone/year.

[Bas]

how many are from Ontario?

[Guest]

Bas,

ZERO!!! Just kidding....don't know. Info I got was from a BC news article and they said that 250 would go to Depot from BC and 750 from the rest of Canada.

[RJB2004]

Bas said:

Thank God!! I hope they don't make me take it. Yeah the poly is craptolla, it is not even admissible in court. The rcmp is going to be wasting big bucks implementing it.

Folks, do you know how many applicants the rcmp receives per year and how many troops they send out to depot annually? I am interested at the stats because of the LONG waiting time and money concerns during depot.

Bas

I don't know about applications, but approx 11,000 write the RPAT each year, and Depot currently puts through between 1000-1200 recruits.

[Bas]

oh man Guest you almost gave me a heart attack!! ;D

So there is a 1 in 10 chance if I write the rpat I will get into depot, that's fairly competive but I am confident that I can manage.

Great to hear progress with some applicants from this forum, keep up the good work folks.

I will be writing the rpat end of the month.

Bas

[Guest]

Hey guys,

remember that the RCMP doesn't send troops in December and 4 troops in July didn't go this year so out of a possible 52 troops they only put through 42-ish troops this year. But the good news is that the average troops size is 24-30 (1200 cadets per yr).

BC (E-Division) has 9 spots aloted to them every troop
42 x 9= 378 cadets per yr.
followed by alberta and the rest of the provinces are given are a couple per troop.

If you make it to depot you will be the lucky 7.5 % that make it all the way.

[Guest]

Hey guys,

remember that the RCMP doesn't send troops in December and 4 troops in July didn't go this year so out of a possible 52 troops they only put through 42-ish troops this year. But the good news is that the average troops size is 24-30 (1200 cadets per yr).

BC (E-Division) has 9 spots aloted to them every troop
42 x 9= 378 cadets per yr.
followed by alberta and the rest of the provinces are given a couple of spots per troop.

If you make it to depot you will be the lucky 7.5 % that make it all the way.

[Rexina]

Just a little note re: poly implementation

The info session I attended on July 22 said the poly IS part of the application process. No mention that it was just recently implemented, or soon-to-be, nothing. Just skimmed over it like it had always been there. I don't suppose that means much though, one could reach that point expecting to take it and then have them say "Oh, we haven't started doing that yet" without any complaints, I'm thinking! Why not use just the mention of it to discourage unsuitables in the meantime?

Interestingly, when summarizing the steps in the application process, the list said "successful polygraph". The recruiter made a point of stressing that it did not say "PASS polygraph", but "successful". Hmmmm.

Comments?

Rexina

[Cab]

....and the poly attacks the thread again.

Anyways, Rexina....my interpretation of a 'successful' poly would be one in which any responses where you showed an increase emotion or "the needles went wild", the field investigator would take an extra hard look at that by interviewing people beyond the normal scope of a typical BI. To PASS a poly...well, how do you pass it. It is based on interpretation.....kind of how the suitability interview is based on a subjective analysis of your past experiences. I understand all the anti-poly stuff, but aside from the PARE...and possibly the RPAT, the process is subjective (i.e. based on the opinion of one or a few people). So in saying this, I think subjective measures need to be balanced all together. If all the measures are leaning to the unsuitable side...well, then good bye. However, if you are leaning the other way...welcome to Depot.

Now how the rcmp defines successful....time will tell!

I do support the rcmp bringing in the ploy. It will lessen the chance that some less then honest people get in.

My hope is that the poly is done after or in conjunction with the security interview, and any areas of concern on the poly are given a good look at during the background investigation.

[YYC]

It would be very interesting to see if the RCMP does in fact use the poly as an investigation tool rather than pass / fail tool.

Why then, do they not screen for drugs in the urine / blood for example during your medical? Certainly more accurate than a poly alothough it cant go way back.

[DaveTO]

YYC, I'm sure that they do test for that as part of a Toxscreen on your blood/urine.

The real issue of poly testing is, of course, $$$$. As a current RCMP officer stated, "We don't have enough polygraphers to assist us in our regular cases."