RCMP

[journey2cps-redux]

dalex said:

How much does it really cost to get through depot ? $4000- $6000 seems really high to me. If we use the average of $5000, over 22 weeks, that is $227 per week. What is it that you are having to spend your money on ?

Hey Dalex,
I asked this quetion to a couple of cadets while they were at depot. I was told that the first month they will nickle and dime you to death...a text book here, and kit there, etc. and none of it is really worth while to buy before hand, I looked into it. The stuff retails for about twice what they charge for it at the depot canteen. Expect to spend close to $1500 in the first couple of months. After that the isn't really any big purchases until you graduate, then you'll have to get a duty flashlight, duty bag, and some other things. Alot of the cost in the above figure, is for flights home, or to fly family out to Regina. so if you ignore the flights and other "non-essential" spending thenyou could make it off $2500, but that would mean almost never leaving the ranch. Which might not be a bad thing... ;D after the first couple of months you can easily live off of $20/week. Hope that clears things up a bit.

And if I'm off on any of this please feel free to correct me.

[DaveTO]

dalex said:

How much does it really cost to get through depot ? $4000- $6000 seems really high to me. If we use the average of $5000, over 22 weeks, that is $227 per week. What is it that you are having to spend your money on ?

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[Dragon]

Hello all ;D
Thanks for all your support through this time in life. I called my file manager and she was real encouraging, she said that she too failed the interview the first time around and said not to give up. She gave me the go ahead to apply for auxiliary while I'm waiting to write the RPAT in Nov 2004. It will help me gain a little more experience in policing ;D Again thanks for the support.

Tim " All things work out for the best "

[Jag]

Re: Download of music for private use.

I thought that Bill C-32 amendments to the Copyright Act took care of this issue. The federal government enacted a "private copying levy" which added a surcharge to blank audio recording media at the point of manufacture or import. The cost was then passed on to the consumer when they bought the blank tapes or CDs.

In exchange for the levy, section 80 provides that copying of music works for "private use" will no longer be considered infringement.

I could be off base but please feel free to correct me!

[dalex]

Hello everyone, just wanted to let you know that I passed my PARE test today ;D
My time was 3:49. I was pretty happy with this because when I did the practice my time was 4:05 and I had three mat penalties which put my total time up to 4:20.

So now I just have a bit of paperwork left to do and my application package will be ready to send in!

[Jag]

Dalex,

Congratulations! One more thing off your back!

Jag

[journey2cps-redux]

Dalex,
Great time for the PARE! Told you wasn't THAT difficult.

Jag,
While the Bill C-32 amendments do pass the extra cost onto consumers, Section 80 only allows for copying of files (Music, Software, etc) if you own the original disk and it is for back up purposes only (re, you won't ever use the copies unless the originals are destoyed). Downloading music from the net or via file sharing is technically illegal...I say "technically" because, if you own the CD that already has the song, then you could create the mp3 yourself for your own use. If you don't own the CD, and you are not paying a royalty to the artist, then it's "illegal"...besides I think the RCMP has a lot more important things to look after.

Bottom line with all of this, "Don't ask, don't tell" It is VERY doubtful that this will come up in either your selection or security, unless YOU tell them about it...

J2D

[Bas]

Good day folks,

In attempt to know the law enforcement profession better, I have a few questions for all...

1) How do people normally break into the field?
2) What skills and personal qualities are most important for success?
3) What are the biggest challenges?

Bas

[guest]

longshot (and Maverick),

I have to disaagree with you on making light of the MP3 thing. You laugh and say it is of minor consequence? It is stealing and illegal. Just because officers in your Dad's detachment do it doesn't make it OK for you too. They are already cops. Of course nothing is going to happen to them. The same goes for drinking and driving. i am sure a number of your Dads partners do that also because they know if they get pulled over by their buddies they are not going to get charged. I guess you could say they are somewhat above the law.

Your post (and Mavericks) sounded like they advocate stealing and lying about it on your application and interview. I think your post regarding this matter were irresponsible.

Maverick, why do you think that if you weren't making a profit it was OK and should not be disclosed during your interview?

The CPS personal disclosure asks "Have you ever used a computer or the internet for illegal or nuisance purposes (ie child porn, hacking, harrasing emails, TEXTtheft of software, etc[b)

Why would they ask that if it weren't a concern to them? Do you think the RCMP police different laws?

[Guest1]

Dear Guest,

In responce to your post pertaining to downloading mp3's and other software. Anyone with a computer has more than likely has either downloaded or used illegal software / music at one time of another. If the RCMP rejected all applicants that have downloaded illegal software or music, the RCMP would not have ANY new recruits. As to comparing drinking a driving to downloading the occasional song from the net....I have never heard of downloading EVER killing anyone!

[Maverick]

C'mon, my post does not advocate stealing and lying about it. Good luck at the interview (if you are in the process), but don't forget to mention the times you were driving and you slipped over the speed limit, or those incomplete stops you made at 4 way stops in the past, and of course all the times you have jay-walked, those things are all illegal too! You better mention the times when you got change back from a store and got 3 or 4 cents extra and never went back and told them.......that's theft right??? O.K., enough sarcasm, but seriously, I would love to be a fly on the wall of your interview.

[guest]

Illegally downloading a song from the internet is no different than stealing the single from a record store. How do you differentiate between the two.


I agree that it is "fairly" minor in the scheme of things but to post that you don't have to disclose things of that nature is wrong. If asked specifically whether you downloaded MP3's you should say yes (if you have). Withholding that info might come back to bite you in the butt later.

Aren't there a bunch of lawsuits from the record companies sueing the little everyday people like you and I in the states right now? It may be coming here.

Also, I would not disclose anything freely in your interview unless specifically asked to do so. Maybe that is what you meant Maverick?

[journey2cps-redux]

Guest-guest said:

Also, I would not disclose anything freely in your interview unless specifically asked to do so. Maybe that is what you meant Maverick?

I think that is exactly what Marverick meant....like I said in my previous post..."If they don't ask, then you don't tell" I know some people may consider this an ommison of the truth, and therefore a lie, but like Maverick said, if you were disclose everything you have ever done in your life that was "illegal" the security interview itself would take over 8 hours, and the interviewer would probably just get fed up and say thanks but try again.... ;D

Just my 2 cents...

[Guest1]

J2D…since you have done the interview stage, it sounds from your posts that the types of interview questions asked during the security interview are quite specific and not open ended. Is that the case?

[Bas]

Hey if you are going to disclose MP3 downloading, are you going disclose the times when you jaywalk, litter or spit in the public? ;D

Dude, I think you should relax

Bas