RCMP

[Dragon]

Hello all,
As some of you might remember me, I got deferred at my interview last July over past money problems :'(but I'm not giving up that easy. Tim
"All things work out for the best"

[crappydk2]

Where did you find the information about claiming UI for the time you are depot? Is it on their site? I can't find it anywhere. Please provide a link if you can.

thanks

[another guest]

Here Here! It is about high time that people stop putting their lives, their families, their mental health on the line for the good of the RCMP or any other police force for that matter.

If you sit down, examine yourself, and fully understand that you would be a compeditive applicant, go with what suits you best!

The RCMP, CPS, everyone else, uses the fear that you will never get hired if you dont conform to their instant requests and dragged out timelines!

I would be one of the first to tell a recruiter to pound sand if they came up with some lame excuse or started bullshitting over some PDF or security interview.

Myself, I was deffered from the RCMP at selection for a period of one year. I know the reason. That reason exists today, as it did yesterday, and still will next year.

Yes, I will re-write, re-apply.
Why?
Because I desire it.

But they will be the first to get the big FO if they start jerking me around, why, because I am sick of the mind games. The next round will be MY LAST. By MY choice.

The time has come were positions and retirements exceed that of qualified applicants. It is they who will soon feel the pinch. The sooner they wake up and realize that we talk, that we know who has the best process, the most respect for their applicants, we'll will win them over, the better for us.

We dont owe them anything because they sure as hell go out of their way to prove that they dont owe us anything.

Folks, it is fast becomming a sellers market.

[RJB2004]

Guest-another said:

Here Here! It is about high time that people stop putting their lives, their families, their mental health on the line for the good of the RCMP or any other police force for that matter.

If you sit down, examine yourself, and fully understand that you would be a compeditive applicant, go with what suits you best!

The RCMP, CPS, everyone else, uses the fear that you will never get hired if you dont conform to their instant requests and dragged out timelines!

I would be one of the first to tell a recruiter to pound sand if they came up with some lame excuse or started bullshitting over some PDF or security interview.

Myself, I was deffered from the RCMP at selection for a period of one year. I know the reason. That reason exists today, as it did yesterday, and still will next year.

Yes, I will re-write, re-apply.
Why?
Because I desire it.

But they will be the first to get the big FO if they start jerking me around, why, because I am sick of the mind games. The next round will be MY LAST. By MY choice.

The time has come were positions and retirements exceed that of qualified applicants. It is they who will soon feel the pinch. The sooner they wake up and realize that we talk, that we know who has the best process, the most respect for their applicants, we'll will win them over, the better for us.

We dont owe them anything because they sure as hell go out of their way to prove that they dont owe us anything.

Folks, it is fast becomming a sellers market.

I don't care how long it takes as long as I get in. I like the long hard process.. makes it worth more in the end

[Dragon]

I agree with you RJB2004, the longer and harder you work at something it will mean more to you when you finally get it. I worked hard for over 4 years to get a Black Belt and it means alot to me, if they just handed it over to me in a few months it wouldn't be the same.

Tim

[another guest]

So, you admit to being slaves to the recruitment process?

What if you can't get in?

What if an unknow condition shows on your medical?

Have you diversifed your education and training?

Will training in criminology or criminal justice waste your money, can you use it to further your career in security or volunteering at St John ambulance if you cant apply it to policing?

Do you have a backup career ready to go?

Would you be happy staying were you are now?

Do you think that it is acceptable for police forces to mentally abuse their applicants?

Do you know why polygraphs can only be taken once per year? Because of the psychological stress involved.

Is it worth it?

Do you have the guts to be assertive with your recruiting department and tell them enough is enough?

Wake up my friend. Wake up.

THEY are running out of applicants.

Personally, I would be happy in many jobs. Including my current career. The RCMP or CPS would be nice, sure. But do they deserve my, or your, full and undivided attention?

Spend two years in their recruiting process, go to the end. Get rejected. Then take a long hard look at the last two years. Are you a better person for it?

Maybe.

Maybe you know how to run a pare better.

Maybe you polished your interviewing skills.

Good for you.

Was it worth it all in the end?

Sure, dont give up. The harder the fight, the sweeter the victory. But do you have to take crap during the fight to the finish line? No, you dont.

TTYL

[RJB2004]

Guest-another said:

So, you admit to being slaves to the recruitment process?

What if you can't get in?

What if an unknow condition shows on your medical?

Have you diversifed your education and training?

Will training in criminology or criminal justice waste your money, can you use it to further your career in security or volunteering at St John ambulance if you cant apply it to policing?

Do you have a backup career ready to go?

Would you be happy staying were you are now?

Do you think that it is acceptable for police forces to mentally abuse their applicants?

Do you know why polygraphs can only be taken once per year? Because of the psychological stress involved.

Is it worth it?

Do you have the guts to be assertive with your recruiting department and tell them enough is enough?

Wake up my friend. Wake up.

THEY are running out of applicants.

Personally, I would be happy in many jobs. Including my current career. The RCMP or CPS would be nice, sure. But do they deserve my, or your, full and undivided attention?

Spend two years in their recruiting process, go to the end. Get rejected. Then take a long hard look at the last two years. Are you a better person for it?

Maybe.

Maybe you know how to run a pare better.

Maybe you polished your interviewing skills.

Good for you.

Was it worth it all in the end?

Sure, dont give up. The harder the fight, the sweeter the victory. But do you have to take crap during the fight to the finish line? No, you dont.

TTYL

The bitter guests here are somewhat humourous.. but for the most part they are sad individuals. I can understand why they were deferred.

[highroller]

I'm thinking maybe you didn't get chosen and that is why you are so bitter.

Personaly I look forward to being able to go thru the proccess it maybe long and hard but in the end whether you make it or not you'll atleast be able to tell yourself that you gave it your best shot instead of not trying and wondering what might have been.

[Martr]

running out of applicants?
They have 10 times the amount of applicants that get in each year!

the fact that it's along process only makes it better to see who really wants it and who gives up too easily.

[journey2cps-redux]

Guest-horn said:

DID YOU KNOW?

That as of this year the federal government is treating your time at Depot as if it were any other educational institute. Which means that you can claim back all expenses (School related) and an amount that they have specified for each month in training at tax time. Currently for new members you can claim around 400.00 for your room and board at Depot.

That you can receive unemployment insurance while at Depot for those who need a little extra income.

All of this has come around for 2004.

Would like to see som emore info on this. I know when I looked into it last year, the 6 months at depot was a "Taxable Benefit" in other words you are getting room and board and not paying for it, that means that you get bent over by CCRA during your next tax return. Anyone I asked about it ended up paying AT LEAST $1000 on the next tax return. So if they have changed this that will also help increase applications.

Hmmm,
2 years waiting, 6 months unpaid training, eating chicken 3 meals a day, no salary until a month after posting arrival, and getting nailed on your taxes??? Where do I sign up! ;D

[macguy9]

I'd just like to clear one thing up here. Most applicants to the RCMP would *not* be able to get EI while in Depot.

There is a very strict rule with the EI board that states that if YOU quit your job without 'just reason' (going to 'school' is not one of them, being harrassed by the employer constantly would be), then you do *not* qualify for EI. You have to be laid off or terminated by your employer in order to qualify.

At least, that's how it was last time I checked. Admittedly that was over 10 years ago...

[highroller]

This is derect from the RCMP web site under
(Recruiting FAQ)




Q: Does the RCMP pay my expenses while I'm at the Training Academy?

A: Room and board are paid by the RCMP. The Canada Customs and Revenue Agency (CCRA) issues a taxable benefit receipt to cadets for room and board benefits exceeding $500. So, for example, if room and board charges total $3,000 for the duration of the training period, the CCRA issues a T4A supplementary receipt for that amount.

Cadets pay for all other incidental costs. You can expect to spend over $4000 as a recent survey of Cadets indicated that they required $4600 over the twenty-four week training period.

[journey2cps-redux]

highroller said:

The Canada Customs and Revenue Agency (CCRA) issues a taxable benefit receipt to cadets for room and board benefits exceeding $500.

Unfortunately "Taxable Benefits" require that CPP and income taxes be paid on the amount. So if the average meal works out to say $5 you'd be looking at roughly $1800 for food, plus say $20 a day for housing, which adds up to approx $3600. So your total taxable benefit would be $5400 (roughly) which YOU would be required to pay taxes and CPP on...I think...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this should be correct based on the info from the CCRA's website.

[yet another guest]

Husband's tax info from Depot $3079.66

[DaveB]

That's correct. Taxable benefits are a bad thing not a good thing.

You better save every receipt you get and claim those as an expense or you will end up owing money.

Unfortunately I will likely have to use RRSP money when I get to that point so from a tax perspective it's not good!

But it will be worth it in the end!