RCMP

[macguy9]

Hey 'guest'... do us all a favour and register a name. It makes it hard for us to chat if nobody knows which 'guest' we're talking to.

Look... we could keep going back and forth on the recruiting process till hell freezes over, and we wouldn't get anywhere. You're going to run into bad recruitment processes no matter where you go... police forces or otherwise. For example, the recruiting process at my company is fundamentally flawed (especially when it comes to managment), and there's nothing I can do about it.

The only thing I can do is accept that which I cannot change, and try to work within the system towards my benefit. If the system prohibits me from getting anywhere, then I should be asking myself, 'do I really want to be part of that system'? If not, then I should walk away and forget about it.

I don't think we're living in 'glass houses' here, guest. Some of us just have been through enough crap to realize that sometimes life doesn't pan out the way you want it to, and we go into things prepared for that. I'm not putting my life on hold for the RCMP, I'm going in assuming that something bad will happen. That way, if everything goes well, it's a pleasant surprise.

My $0.02.

[BCRCMP wanabee]

Boyscout,

enlighten us as to the real reason u were failed. if we don't know j**k sh*t, let's hear the whole story, unbiased and less bitter. it is hard for us to believe that u were failed for having too many "toys" or that the interviewer was jealous. if u can, what was the exact reason the interviewer gave u?

an example such as yours may be able to help others on this board. pass on your knowledge.

[Boyscout]

Listen Guys/Gals

I know I am a little bitter. More fustrated than bitter. I know the process is not prefect. Just very fustrating. I would tell you the reason but I would have tell ya one of the questions on the interview...which I cannot, since I am sure you know the reason why..until it happens to you, it would be hard for you to understand.....
I was failed on one question in the interview, only one and thats it....we went over the interview after it was over. I was told I passed everything except one small part of one question...
Was it my toys?? i don't know, I just don't understand why my toys was brought into question once again at the final interview..when it was discussed in the first interview..
So BCRCMP wannabe, I can't enlighten you to the full because that would go against what I signed at the begining of the interview....It would give me great pleasure to do, but I can't.
The reason I was given was lame, believe me, it was..thats what is so fustrating..
They should have more than one person doing the interview..but time and money only will allow one interviewer at the present time.
Was the interview jealous, hell if I know, had a bad day, could of...seemed to be.....

Maverick
We discussed the comps...I was told by him that I did well on all except one question...one thats all...
I am not the first or the last...I am not pin pointing, just very fustrated on how it went...fustrated about the toys being brought up again when it was dealt with before...

So people here is a tip..
You must pass all questions they ask you, you cannot fail one or miss one. Your rpat score and pare score doesn't matter in the interview. Those scores only matter to you when/if they send you a application package.

So to those out there, good luck, you will need it. If you get an interviewer on a good day, all the better to ya.

[Chris 11]

Hey Boyscout, this is the guest here, forgot to log in when I posted that message. Care to elaborate on how I don't know jacks**t ? I was just passing on the info because I found the website useful, you can either take it or leave it. If you don't think my feedback is helpful to you, then just move along to the next message. This isn't one of your adolescent forums for name calling and unnecessary critisim! That's all I have to say about that.
Sorry everyone else about the guest thing, I know how annoying that is.

CAW

[Maverick]

Boyscout, thanks for the reply on the competencies....failing one is all it takes unfortunately, it's happened to others on the board as well. They get a lot of qualified applicants so they need to have a way to measure one against the other so it is fair, hence the scoring system at the interview. I do agree with others that have posted in the past that it is really a judgement call from the interviewer.....had you had a different interviewer he/she may have been satisifed with the same answer. I agree with the fact that maybe it would be better to have a panel interview to alleviate the feeling of the decision being based on personal bias or a bad day. There's no getting around it, being deferred sucks, but like you said there is municipal forces out there that you can apply for and you can always apply again to the RCMP and work on you answer for that one question, good luck in the future.

[BCRCMP wanabee]

boyscout,

thanx for the info! good luck with what u are doing now and in the future.

[guest]

There is some confussing info here. Some people say they have heard that the RCMP is not getting enough qualified applicants to meet their recruiting demands. As long as you pass the minimum requirments you are in. Some people say they have a ton of qualified applicants and that the competition is very keen. Does anyone here, with any sort of authority or reputable first hand knowledge, know what the situation is.

I have heard first hand (from a current CPS officer) that the muni forces such as Edmonton and Calgary are pulling applicants from a dry well and coming up with the sludge at the bottom.

Any knowledgable comments?

I will find a name and log on soon.

[Jag]

Guest-guest said:

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Why is it so hard for you new applicants to accept that the hiring practices of the RCMP (and other muni forces) is fundamentaly flawed? The flaws are eveident during many portions of the process where it comes down to one persons opinion or decision as to whether you continue. Portions such as the poly, the interviews (for the RCMP), the psyc exam, the background investigation (RCMP), etc. You could go in for your interview and catch the interviewer on a bad day and you are screwed for life. The police are human and susceptible to letting emotions and personal beliefs affect their decision making. It is brutul that your application can come down to one persons opinion.

Then you get someone like JAG saying that "judging by the tone of your post I can see why you where deferred". BS JAG. As an applicant you do put your life on hold for the RCMP. You change your life, start warning family that you might be going, start selling your house and cars to afford the training, cash in RRSP's, etc. Then you get the deferral letter for some BS reason... Of course you are going to be angry, d**n angry and hate everything about that force.

You people here are sure quick to judge and throw stones here on this board. Wait until you glass house comes crashing around you and we will see if you are still so warm and fuzzy towards the recruiting department.

I know we are no detectives here, but Guest you got me mixed up with "Another Guest". Not my style!

However, I do have to bring up the point of "choice". As we all know that RCMP process is a long one. Yes, there are ups and downs. However, it is important to remember that we made the choice to go through the process! During the Information session, I don't recall them saying that you should put your life on hold.

I am of the opinion that there is always something to be learned from your own experiences and the experiences of others. From this forum alone, you would know by now that nothing is guarantee. As it was mentioned before, the system might be flawed. Knowing that, you should work with the system.

This is my second time around, so I know the feeling of frustration and broken dreams. Some of you fell of the horse! You can either wipe you butt off and get back on the horse. Or lay there and watch that horse trample over you. I bet you that it hurts as much as our egoes. Either way, it is not the horses fault! In fact, the horse could care less!

You have control over the choices you make and then these choices in turn control you. Jag

[guest]

I appologize JAG. It was Another guest that made those comments.

You brought up a good point mind you it sure feels good to vent sometimes.

[BCRCMP wanabee]

Guest,

i am no rcmp 'recruiting authority', but from my experiences over the last couple of years i would say that competition is still very keen. it will vary from region to region and although the current average RPAT score required seems to be slightly less than in previous blocks, it is still much higher than the minimum requirement.

unless of course u are a female or visible minority in which case there is much less competition.

as for muni forces, i dont know. my friend just got on with winnipeg and it did not seem as though they were scrapping the bottom of the barrel...although he did not get a high enough RPAT for RCMP.

[Jag]

x97irp,

Welcome to the board! What stage are you at?

Guest or any other version of Guest,

I agree with Macguy, please get a proper handle. It is simply rude!

Plus, it makes it easier to keep track of who said what. Jag

[Chris 11]

Thanks Jag and Macguy. It is confusing when there is more than one guest. When I skimed through the messages I thought the comment by boyscout was made to myself another "guest". I realize now they were directed to "another guest". Sorry "boyscout".
To answer your question Jag, I'm at the first stage -I'm preparing to write the RPAT in "O" division. Found this forum and it looks like a great way to share knowledge and the experiences with the recruiting process.
I've already learned that I must work on my observational skill before the RPAT!

-x97

[therecruit1]

Why is it that when some people get deferred they say something about putting their lives on hold? If they would have done the proper research they would have known that the process is very unpredictable and there are no for sure candidates.
At the same time for those that do put their lives on hold is pursuing this career not a good reason to do so, whether you make it or not?

[MPOV]

I think you put your life on hold when applying.

You frantically try to save enough money for Depot. You sometimes have to sell things before you go. You curb your normal spending habits. You might not do things you normally would (ie go to a bar with friends for a drink) for fear of how it might look during your interview. Every waking moment you are consumed by the application wondering how it is going. When you get to the final stages of the application your stomach turns with anticipation everytime the phone rings. You have to use almost 2 weeks vacation to attend all the testing, interviews, appointments, etc. You might increase your workout frequency thereby giving yourself less time to do other things you might have normally done. Your life definately changes (you put your life on hold) for the approximate 2 years during your application. Then, after all that sacrifice you get a cold impersonal form letter (with a stamp instead of a signature) telling you you are deffered with no explaination as to why? That is why peoples initial reaction to the news is so negative and that is why I feel you put your life on hold.

My Point of View

[BCRCMP wanabee]

that is a sad story. deferred for no reason? 2 weeks holidays gone? no drinking with your buddies?

true, everybody changes their life when they get on the depot train right from the info session, but, u have to be a realist and remember that u are doing it to yourself. the rcmp did not tell u to change into something u were not before. not until u have passed all the interviews and u are confident that your BI and med are good to go that u should start counting on going. i am seeing too many people set themselves up to be dissapointed and disgruntled with the whole process because they start drastically putting their life on hold the day after the info session.