2 more years!!!

[Romano]

Hey everyone, I thought I would give you all an update on my current situation. I received a letter today from the Calgary Police notifying me that my file is no longer competitive and that I have been removed from the process. I can reapply in 2 years time. I don't think I have ever been so frustrated in my life. I passed all the tests and stages of the application process only to be shot down at the very end. My file manager wouldn't even return my phonecalls for the last month...I just thought that she was busy (boy was I wrong) I have dedicated myself to appying in Calgary for the past three years and now nothing. I gave them everything they asked for in an applicant and still I have come up short. I just don't get it. For the first time in a long time I don't know what I am going to do with myself. I will reapply but from now until then...who knows. Sorry I just had to get all that off my chest. What a christmas present.

[cdncop2be]

Romano

Hey bud, sorry to hear your bad news. But I do know how you feel. Its is fustrating to say the least. Im surprised that they didn't tell you the reason, or where you need improving, if at all.
Have you thought about the rcmp or Edmonton police?
Thats a tough break man, keep your chin up eh.
Glenn

[D]

Romano,

I feel for you guy. I aced the RCMP written and physical only to get weeded out during the interview phase. Its frustrating as hell when you know deep in your heart that you were put on this earth to be a LEO. All it takes is one little thing to go wrong to dash your dream. Myself, I'm getting too old to keep trying and I've got a decent civilian job already with the RCMP. I see by your profile that you're only 23. All I can say is keep trying man! As many applicants know already, it can take several tries before you get on somewhere. Just take what you've learned from this experience and build on it for the next application. Make yourself an even better candidate for the next one. Persevere and you will succeed. Good luck!

DT

[Phil]

Hey Romano, I'm sorry to hear your bad news. Thats a terrible Christmas present. Remember, in two years you can go in there and completely dazzle 'em.

I don't know how much concilation this is to you, but the RCMP is also another great agency and I have strongly considered applying with them if my app. with the CPS doesn't work out. Until you can decide, keep your head up and I'm sure you will figure out what you need to do.

[guest]

Romano,

I can't stress what I am going to write here enough. The exact same thing happened to me about 6 years ago with the CPS. I went right to the end only to be given the thanks but no thanks letter. I applied to other forces after the CPS, including the RCMP, and have been shot down by them all. The reason was the CPS poly results.

Sorry bud but I tried to warn you in earlier posts to study up on the poly before you took it ( i am not trying to add salt to a wound, I want you to get pissed and fight for your application here). I can almost gaurantee that you were defered because of the poly results. Maybe you confessed something they concidered grounds for deferal. They tell you nothing you say will leave this poly room, "All I am forwarding to the recruiting departemnt is a pass or fail grade", ya right. Your file has it all. You may have also fallen victim to the "fabricated or falsified" confession tactic the CPS polygraphers like to use.

You have to schedule an appointment to meet with the recruiting seargant to discuss the reason for your deferal. They will give you the run around and never tell you the truth over the phone. If you get a meeting, ask the sgt why you were defered. They may or may not tell you the real reason. They don't have to as they are municiple and are not legally bound by the federal freedom or information and privacy act so be polite, sincere, and brown nose. See if you can find out what they have written down about you as per your polygrapher. They won't let you physically touch or see the written report but they may tell you the reasons. If you feel something that was written down was in error, ask the sgt to reveiw the polygraph videorecording they taped without your knowledge. The tape might clear your story up. They told me they destroy the tapes every two years so if you go back now you might find out the reason for your deferal and get it cleared up. Fight for it now! If you wait it will be too late like I did. What ever they have written down for the reason of your deferal can be passed on to every other force you apply for. Every force you apply for will have a section asking you what other forces you have applied to in the past. You will have to state CPS. Then they will ask you to sign a release of info so they can contact the other forces for their reason for defering you. It might come back to haunt you as it did me.

I recall you saying in another post the polygrapher hounded you regarding one (or was it two questions?) after the poly. This is known as the post poly interogation. You may have inadvertantly tried to clear up one of your responses during the post poly interogation and fallen victim to the fabricated confession tactic like I did.

ASk to meet with the SGt in peson and try to get to the bottom of why you were defered. The CPS is dying for applicants right now, you got to the very end (poly stage), you can be rest assured it was the poly that defered you. It was not for competative reasons as they state. They need every applicant they can get and are having trouble finding applicants. If the reason is big enough it will haunt you for life regardless of whether it is true of not. They tell you to reapply in two years hoping you will just get tired of the process and go away.

Before you go to the meeting, read the antipoly web page/book and read up on the City of Calgary's freedom of info and privacy act. I think the police fall under the city's act but the police may be exempt. Inform youself then fight. I truely wish you luck. Keep us posted.

[Romano]

Guest, I don't think that I was deferred because of the poly and it was more likely something to do with my age or credit history. Don't go assuming that everyone who gets deferred by CPS is because of the poly. CPS is a good organization and they have their standards which they are not willing to lower for anyone...even if they are desperate for cops right now. If anything it makes their agency that much more appealing to me. At any rate I still have to talk to my file manager and findout the actual reason for my deferral, I'll keep you all posted.

[guest]

I hope for your sake it wasn't the poly either. I would just check the reason for your deferal now while they still have the poly tape. Double check the timeline for when they did each stage of your appliaction. You say you went through every stage and the poly was last. If you were defered for your age or credit history why did they pass you on to the poly stage which I assume was the last stage in the process as it was for me 6 years ago. You sound like you are defending the CPS recruiting department when their job is to find any and all disqualifying facts about the applicants. They are not there to buddy buddy you and help you get in like the polygrapher would have you beleive. All I am saying is find out the reason for your deferal and try to appeal it. They may have made a mistake! When I went in and discussed my deferal with the sgt he came right out and told me that their polygraphers have made mistakes before but because they destroyed the tape they had no other option but to trust what he wrote down. I just feel it would be in your best interest to try and find the real reason ASAP.

I also have to think that if it was your age, or lack of maturity, or lack of worldly experience they would not have wasted their time and money processing you to the poly stage. PS I would talk to the recruiting sgt not your file manager and talk in person. they won't reveal personal info over the phone. Just trying to help.

[Romano]

Guest the CPS recruiting process has changed slightly since you applied. The poly and pysch are the second last things you do before being hired. Once you pass those they begin your background checks and then if all's well they offer you employment.

[Hippie Hater]

Guest is a Hippie!!!!!!!!!

[Epoxy7]

Romano,
I was deferred by the RCMP for 1 year due to credit. They tell you right at the suitability/security interview. Also if it was age or maturity they would have either deferred you at this point or given you the two years notice. A friend of mine applied for Van PD he was also deferred due to credit (only 6 months for him). Again right at the suitability interview. They don't wait for a background check for this. If you went to the poly then you passed the benchmarking stage ie, the competitive marks for your interview. It sounds like you got burned on the Poly. Hopefully it's all just a misunderstanding and you can clear it up, or at least prevent it from letting you apply at other forces. Good luck.

[Romano]

I talked to my file manager yesterday and asked her why I was deferred. Basically I was successful on ALL stages of the process however I am only 23 and they felt that I am in need of a little more life experience. As well some things that I did about 3 years ago (ie. pot smoking) was a little too recent and they want to get some more distance from that period in my life to when they hire me. I was very clear with her and asked whether this was really only a 2 year deferral or if was a lifetime def in disguise. She told me that if the CPS wanted to defer you for life they would tell you outright and not string you along. I am disappointed but also relieved because many of you on this site almost had me convinced that I had failed the poly and was screwed...talk about assuming the worst. At least I have learned not to take the advice of people who speak before they have the facts. To all of you who were supportive and helpful thanks, I really appreciated it. Good luck to all of you.

[marcusinmb]

Hi Romano - I'm glad CPS layed it out for you in a straight-fwd fashion once you pressed them for details. It sounds like they're being honest with you and you just need some more time and experience under your belt.

At 23 you've still got a lot of LE yrs ahead of you. The CPS is a great police agency. Just show them the same qualities and attributes in a year or two down the road (always strive to improve though in the meantime), and I'm convinced you'll be a future CPS constable. Good job bud.

[Romano]

Thanks Marcus, what's the status with your current application? You were applying to RCMP right?

[J]

Romano.

Glad to hear that everything is all cleared up. A guy that I volunteer with was given a 2 yr defr. and you will be amazed at how fast 2 yrs goes by ! I think the trick is to set a couple goals withing that timeframe and that will make the time fly by.

I wish you all the best and good luck

J

[dave]

Romano:

Ditto what marcusinmb said. More detail in a real email, but I'm glad to hear re. your deferal. CPS is a straight up force and it's good to prove the nay-sayers/"conspiracy theory-ists" wrong.

Marcusinmb:

no real big movement yet - OC interview Monday.MTF.

Dave