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Post by Question on Aug 25, 2004 21:35:36 GMT -5
Here's a quick question...
A years ago, we got pulled over, me & a buddy & they found weed in our car. Just a joint, the cop told us not to have that stuff around. We gave our drivers licences, he came back, gave em back & said stay outta trouble.
Do the police acutally report that whole thing in full or is it just a thing that says you were pulled over. Since I wasent charged, brought in, ticketed or anything...will that stay on my record?
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Post by Q on Aug 26, 2004 11:17:31 GMT -5
Nothing happens. There will be no record of it anywhere. It happens all the time. Unless you got a peice of paper with a fine or court date, or a ride in the back seat then nothing to worry about. Ok...if I ever make it to the interview stage, should I just tell them about this? |
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Aug 26, 2004 13:40:50 GMT -5
If you want to make sure you have a clear concience then by all means let them know at the security interview. If it we me, I would tell them.  Hope that helps. |
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Post by Guest on Aug 26, 2004 15:50:38 GMT -5
I believe one of the many questions they will ask you is if you had any police contacts and explain the circumstance of the interaction, and your situation certainly fits in that category. Even though you weren't ticketed, summonned, etc, the officer may still had put your name into their system with the reason attached to it (i know one particular service who does that), as you mentioned that officer did take your driver license to his cruiser. So you better be up front about it when asked. Also, they will ask you if you associate with any criminal elements - pot in a car with a buddy - so you better have an explaination why you are or were friends with him.
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Post by RyanSales on Aug 26, 2004 17:00:54 GMT -5
Bottom line here, tell the truth. A lot easier to explain the truth than to fabricate a lie.
Cheers,
RY
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Post by guest on Aug 26, 2004 20:51:48 GMT -5
I wanna share my own experience.I check the message board everday, as I was in RCMP process but got defferred for 2 yrs (defferrel period will be over in March'05).Reason was I lied about an incident that I thought RCMP recruitment was not aware of. What happened was I went to my friend's house , and saw my buddy and another guy sitting in the car, they were drinking beer.The car was parked on the road side in front of his house(a dumb thing).So I joined them as well I hadn't started drinking yet, a mountie came over.He called us out, did his inquries, checked our ID's and left.No tickets, just a suggestion/warning not to drink on public property.when I went for suitability interview The interviewer asked me if i had brush up with Law enforcement in my life.I denied, he asked me at least three times but I never admitted.Because I thought since I never got a ticket it shouldnt be in their data.But i was wrong, when he told me all the details what happened that night. I was embarrassed and had no explanation why did I lie, even though it was a minor thing.And ended up getting 2 yrs defferrel  .So I think one should be completely honest.I think I was still lucky I only got defferred.I could have been weeded out for not being honest.Integrity and honesty matters the most in Law enforcement. |
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Post by Q on Aug 26, 2004 21:57:01 GMT -5
yeah I'm just gonna tell them straight up. I wanna share my own experience.I check the message board everday, as I was in RCMP process but got defferred for 2 yrs (defferrel period will be over in March'05).Reason was I lied about an incident that I thought RCMP recruitment was not aware of. What happened was I went to my friend's house , and saw my buddy and another guy sitting in the car, they were drinking beer.The car was parked on the road side in front of his house(a dumb thing).So I joined them as well I hadn't started drinking yet, a mountie came over.He called us out, did his inquries, checked our ID's and left.No tickets, just a suggestion/warning not to drink on public property.when I went for suitability interview The interviewer asked me if i had brush up with Law enforcement in my life.I denied, he asked me at least three times but I never admitted.Because I thought since I never got a ticket it shouldnt be in their data.But i was wrong, when he told me all the details what happened that night. I was embarrassed and had no explanation why did I lie, even though it was a minor thing.And ended up getting 2 yrs defferrel .So I think one should be completely honest.I think I was still lucky I only got defferred.I could have been weeded out for not being honest.Integrity and honesty matters the most in Law enforcement. |
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Post by Roy on Aug 26, 2004 23:04:56 GMT -5
Journey2depot....pull it together buddy...how do you know all the procedures of policing....try to limit your advice to being an applicant, not a cop.
My point here....police do 'no case' drug seizures all the time. A lazy cop might just destroy the drug on site and call it a day. What should be done is the joint is seized and a little report is filled out by the cop in the office. Now, names and etc get entered on a police computer system. This happens for most interactions with the police.
And if as an applicant you have to screen your history to weed out the minor incidents in your life...then policing is not for you. Go sell cars or something. Many police have had "incidents" prior to joining a police force/service. If a lie catches up to you...our screwed. The guest that got deferred due to a lie...I bet he won't get accepted ever....you have already raised doubt in your credibility...what is to say you didn't lie about something else. You just got caught with this one lie....doesn't mean you didn't cover up something else. It takes less than a minute to destroy your credibility and forever to get it back.
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Post by Q on Aug 27, 2004 1:43:04 GMT -5
great advice! great post. Journey2depot....pull it together buddy...how do you know all the procedures of policing....try to limit your advice to being an applicant, not a cop. My point here....police do 'no case' drug seizures all the time. A lazy cop might just destroy the drug on site and call it a day. What should be done is the joint is seized and a little report is filled out by the cop in the office. Now, names and etc get entered on a police computer system. This happens for most interactions with the police. And if as an applicant you have to screen your history to weed out the minor incidents in your life...then policing is not for you. Go sell cars or something. Many police have had "incidents" prior to joining a police force/service. If a lie catches up to you...our screwed. The guest that got deferred due to a lie...I bet he won't get accepted ever....you have already raised doubt in your credibility...what is to say you didn't lie about something else. You just got caught with this one lie....doesn't mean you didn't cover up something else. It takes less than a minute to destroy your credibility and forever to get it back. |
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Post by RJB2004 on Aug 27, 2004 9:56:29 GMT -5
I wanna share my own experience.I check the message board everday, as I was in RCMP process but got defferred for 2 yrs (defferrel period will be over in March'05).Reason was I lied about an incident that I thought RCMP recruitment was not aware of. What happened was I went to my friend's house , and saw my buddy and another guy sitting in the car, they were drinking beer.The car was parked on the road side in front of his house(a dumb thing).So I joined them as well I hadn't started drinking yet, a mountie came over.He called us out, did his inquries, checked our ID's and left.No tickets, just a suggestion/warning not to drink on public property.when I went for suitability interview The interviewer asked me if i had brush up with Law enforcement in my life.I denied, he asked me at least three times but I never admitted.Because I thought since I never got a ticket it shouldnt be in their data.But i was wrong, when he told me all the details what happened that night. I was embarrassed and had no explanation why did I lie, even though it was a minor thing.And ended up getting 2 yrs defferrel .So I think one should be completely honest.I think I was still lucky I only got defferred.I could have been weeded out for not being honest.Integrity and honesty matters the most in Law enforcement. The will never tell you never to apply again.. but for something like outright lying.. I don't think you will get on anytime soon. When you apply you will have to fill out on the application for "Reason for deferral".. and you will have to put "dishonesty".. and then they will get your old file and put it in with your new one. I know I wouldn't trust someone who had lied right to my face in a police interview. |
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Aug 27, 2004 10:24:14 GMT -5
Journey2depot....pull it together buddy...how do you know all the procedures of policing....try to limit your advice to being an applicant, not a cop. Geez! I got a lot of flak over this... Well point taken, after re-evaluating my responses, I have deleted and modified accordingly. Sorry for any misconceptions I may have caused. |
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Post by Roy on Aug 28, 2004 18:03:13 GMT -5
Just trying to make you a stonger person J2D. A little flak is what you'll get in police work too. Keep up the battle. |
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Post by PATrooper4347 on Aug 28, 2004 21:01:24 GMT -5
Just to add to the point...
The agency I work for, we often have situations similar to the one described here. Our procedure in this type of incident is to attach a name to a "card" involving the stop. First off we would alert dipatch that we were involved, in the event that no citations/summons are filed we notify dispatch to attach a name to the stop and infrom them of the nature of the stop. These names can be found by simply doing a browse in the system.
So, I agree with the above posts, be honest, if there is something in your past that you are concerned may be a sticking point, simply ask a recuriter or background investigator, they will let you know if something is going to DQ you, and that way you know.
Just my thoughts, Stay safe
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Post by RyanSales on Aug 29, 2004 13:35:05 GMT -5
Just wanted to add another 2 cents (I have a few bucks left in the jar)....
I agree whole heartedly with Roy's post....as I mentioned in another thread about finances, a lot of the posts here about "incidents" should alert some of you that policing probably isn't the job for you. You should be able to go into the interview with no worries about what we'll "find out" about you.
However, there is a balance to that. And that fact is that as police officers, we are people to, and we make mistakes as well.
The interviewers are giving just as many deferals (if not more) for lack of life experience as they are for dishonesty, etc.
If you have made mistakes, THEY UNDERSTAND. Doing something dumb doesn't necessarily indicate a character flaw. However, things like whether or not you own up to it, what you have learned from it, patterns of repetition, similar behaviours, etc all become factors.
So, if you smoked some marihuana when you were 17...don't despair. However, if you have been trying to forget about that incident by drinking a bottle of crown royal every night since, and lie and say you "didn't inhale"...then maybe the job at the local liquor store would be a better choice...
Cheers,
RY
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Post by Silver on Sept 7, 2004 9:58:07 GMT -5
The one thing no-one has said yet is this... life-experience!! It counts for alot in this outfit, believe me. Before I was in I was always around dope... smelled it every night just about (not a user... worked in a seedy bar). So guess who's testimony about the smell of it stands up in court... not the guy who was going to bible school every day and was in by 7pm.
My good troopmate was a young offender growing up and had no problem getting in... he chalked it all up to life experience.
On the other hand... don't lie to someone who catch's lie's every day.
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Hope that helps.
.So I think one should be completely honest.I think I was still lucky I only got defferred.I could have been weeded out for not being honest.Integrity and honesty matters the most in Law enforcement.