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Post by jmays on Apr 7, 2003 22:06:01 GMT -5
I have been in the application process since September. I have completed my written test (made a 97%), and I have passed my Physical Exam (made a 94%). They since have sent me a questionnaire I had to fill out to further process my application. Upon completion of that, they sent me a polygraph pre-questionnaire that I have filled out and will bring with me when I take my polygraph test on the 30th of April. So that should be great. I used to work (when I was a teenager) a grocery store and I have taken small things that I didn't pay for. I will be completely honest with them, but what are they chances that they will look over me due to the fact that I have taken small items without paying? They were things like a coke once or twice, a pen (off the shelf), and I worked in produce so I would usually eat fruit (but that was accepted by management, but COULD be considered stealing). The next steps, should they choose me are the Final Interview, Psychological Test, Medical Examination and Drug Testing, Written exam and physical ability retesting. What do you guys think my chances are? I have 3 family members already in the agency I am applying for, and know MANY other police officers. I ride along with my brother all the time, and already have a very keen sense of the job. I know most laws and codes by heart. I have been trained in gun safety since i was 8 years old. What do you all think?
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Apr 7, 2003 22:11:45 GMT -5
We ALWAYS care.... ;D...most of the time anyways...
Just from reading what you've posted I would say you had a pretty good chance. Depends on a few factors though...What agency? How old are you? When was the "theft"? etc. I think that as long as you are completely honest with your past, to the agency, you should be OK...don't quote me though...anyone else have thoughts??
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Post by jmays on Apr 8, 2003 8:10:50 GMT -5
Just from reading what you've posted I would say you had a pretty good chance. Depends on a few factors though...What agency? How old are you? When was the "theft"? etc. I think that as long as you are completely honest with your past, to the agency, you should be OK...don't quote me though...anyone else have thoughts?? Well, I am 20 now, but the academy doesn't start up until July at which time I will be 21. Also, they have alreaady told me that I can be 20 in the academy as long as I am 21 by the time i graduate. The theft was more than a year ago. When I was a teenager. I plan to be completely honest. Its stupid to lie about nickle and dime stuff when they probably don't care anyway. |
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Post by smiley on Apr 25, 2003 15:07:04 GMT -5
I have 3 family members already in the agency I am applying for, and know MANY other police officers. I ride along with my brother all the time, and already have a very keen sense of the job. I know most laws and codes by heart. I have been trained in gun safety since i was 8 years old. What do you all think?
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All this means nothing to them, because most LE agencies hire people who are good candidates and Know next to nothing about LE.
The idea is they are hired b/c they are good candidates & adapt well on the learning curve.
When I said 'nothing' above I was a bit dramatic, it will mean something if your open minded and listen to your siblings regarding the procedures of the testing. There are PO's from other agencies that apply to agencies in the NY area that get turned down because they are not suitable, so merely knowing faimily who is LE is not enough unless you use it like above.
Good Luck
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Post by smiley on Apr 25, 2003 15:08:37 GMT -5
Please inform us of your Polygraph exam after the 30th,
how did it go and all that jaz!
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Post by guest on Jun 18, 2003 17:45:22 GMT -5
Haven't heard a thing in 2 months. hmmmm
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Post by Lets Get Real on Aug 10, 2003 2:38:50 GMT -5
I know I am a bit late to reply to the above comments....but come on. You stole about a year ago? I would say no chance at passing the interview at this stage. A history of good character needs to be established.
And as for knowing MANY police offciers and having family on the force....well, if a police force hires based on that, then I wouldn't want to belong to them. As for knowing all the 'codes' and how the system works.....dude, don't have a know it all attitude, it peeves others and you probably don't know it all and think you do, which will make for poor work.
Seeing how you haven't replied to others in the last while, I would assume that the poly/security interview went bad.
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Post by guest on Sept 29, 2003 14:29:29 GMT -5
No worries about this kid geting into LE anytime soon. I would bet the farm the recruiters did just what they were trained to do. Weed out the unacceptable. Poly bit you in the A$$ Mays!
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Post by jmays on Sept 29, 2003 14:38:09 GMT -5
You are so wrong. poly didn't bite me in the a$$ at all. And I'm doign just fine thanks. Start the academy in November.
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Post by Lets Get Real on Sept 29, 2003 18:15:07 GMT -5
Now.....jmays....that really surprises me. I am in no way saying you are a bad person nor should not be considered for LE in the future, but if you got accepted into the police academy then there are some real problems with the Chattanooga PD.
Lets take a look: You are 20 (maybe 21 now) and you took 'small' things from your work without paying (stealing). Now this was only in the last few years or so. So what the Chattanooga PD is saying is: "we don't mind if you steal small things...like small amounts of money, some food, and office supplies" Where is the pride in working for an organization like that? Oh...but the stealing was accepted by store management.....corruption and abuse all around....lets follow the leader. Does the owner of the store know you are stealing from him? The fact that you state that the taking of good without paying "COULD" be considered stealing further attests to your attitude.
All I can say is WOW....I hope for the sake of the Chattanooga PD you are lying, and you actually are not going to the academy.
Maybe I have a higher expectation for LE people......am I that off the mark? Anyone agree with me?
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Post by Charlie on Sept 29, 2003 22:33:38 GMT -5
First and foremost, is there ANYONE here who has never done ANYTHING, even remotely, wrong in their life?  I seriously doubt it! Folks, LE agencies are not looking to hire someone who is comprable to Christ! ;D A lot of good cops out there have made poor choices while growing up. Of course, it depends upon the issue(s) at hand as well as the overall circumstances concerning the applicant. AND, how open and truthful an applicant is about the issues in question. I think when all is considered, (And of course, depending on the overall facts, information and circumstances concerning the applicant), there are circumstances that may warrant "forgiveness" and should not impede an otherwise good candidate from being brought on board a department. Personally, I think LGR is possibly unjustifiably rendering an unfair judgment & statement about jmays. (Unless LGR knows something we all don't know). I would hazard a reasonable guess that it is likely that the CPD checks out everyone they consider for a position fairly well. Just my opinion... -- Charlie |
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Post by Lets Get Real on Sept 30, 2003 0:00:17 GMT -5
Charlie, your opinions are generally sound and insightful, however, I feel that I should expand on my point.
I do not know jmays personal history and I am only rendering an opinion based on what he has posted on this forum on various threads. The truth is, the WE ALL HAVE STOLEN STUFF. As kids we sneek that cookie, as teens we may steal a cigarette or change from mom. My issue of concern is that a person has to prove their trustworthiness over time by stopping a past behavior. Just because you stop smoking pot last week doesn't mean we should conclude that you are not a pot smoker....time will determine this. So back to the stealing, a year or two of not stealing doesn't prove you are not a thief. This has to be proven over a longer period of time. Especially when considering someone for policing. Police come into contact with money, drugs, property most days on the job....do we temp a person that was an opportunistic thief a few years ago with this....no.
Forgiveness is a quality that all people should have. But we have to be realistic in granting forgiveness. You would only forgive a guy that beat you up if he was sincere with his appology and showed his sincerity by not hitting you again. This can only be measured with time.
I stick with my previous posting, and the opinion related within.
A fact to ponder: When an outside investigation was done on the New Orleans PD in the early 90's, they had documentation that some officers when interviewd for the job had admitted to 'minor' criminal acts in the previous two to three years (the time is important....if it was 7 to 8 years it would be a different stroy). And we all know the embarassing histroy of the NOPD....with corruption that you would normally see in a third world PD.
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Post by jmays on Sept 30, 2003 7:18:09 GMT -5
Buddy, what is it that makes you hate me so much? I'm just going out there trying to do the best I can, and you should try to do the same. Don't sit on a message board on the internet and try to defame me. Get out and mentor a child or something. Contribute to the world insead of just spreading your hatred everywhere.
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Post by guest on Sept 30, 2003 9:30:01 GMT -5
Yes the infamous guest. I have to agree with LGR. The attack on your character Mays from myself in particular is based on some of your responses and posts earlier. I found them to be extremely immature and volatile. Point in case, look at your ubsurd replies to the poly thread. You ask for help regarding the poly and what to expect. I reply you should read TLBTLD and warn you to watch your back with the polygraphers and you go off like a three year old throwing a tantrum in a grocery store. The point is I find it hard to believe that the police force you applied to is so hard up as to have to accept a person of your immature and moral fiber to fill spots at the academy. If what you say is true, which I highly doubt, God help TN. To put the power of authority and the ability to affect peoples lives like a LEO can in the hands of someone like you? Maybe the saying "it's not what you know it's who you know" rings true. Looks like you owe your brother big time! |
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Post by jmays on Sept 30, 2003 9:58:07 GMT -5
Perhaps. But anyway, you have fun. Be good, and hopefully one day, you can fulfil your dream of becoming an LEO as well. Good luck.
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I seriously doubt it!