RPAT

[ECHO13]

Hello, I was wondering if anyone of you who is a few steps ahead in the process could volunteer some insight or speculation about a score of 3.98 on the test. I wrote this in Jan. 2002 and have heard nothing to date. I live in Montreal Quebec. Could this have an impact on my chances? Any opinions are welcome. Thanks, ECHO 13.

[Hopeful]

That would definitly be high enough in B.C. I've heard that here it is in the 3.70 range. Dunno about Quebec I'm afraid.

[ECHO13]

Thanks for the info. Good luck!

[onedaysoon]

I'm here in Edmonton (K div) and at the last info session they told us 4.13 for a white male.... BUT, seems these days thats a floating number!!

ONEDAYSOON

Find a job you love and you'll never work a day in your life.

[lich]

The score for a white male? You mean to tell me different genders/racial groups have different qualifying scores? Why?

[Drakor]

This isn't the only department that encourages minorities and women to apply. Most radios ads either directly or indirectly tell you this. Indirectly speaking they will have a couple of spokes people telling you how satisfied and they are pursuiting their education dreams. These people are minorities.
Most departments hiring process was devoted to hiring the 6-4 white males for so long that the view point of most peole is why bother to apply. I agree that if your qualified and can pass all the requirements then you should have equal opportunity to be hired.
I also know that the lenght to be hired is dramatically different across the racial board. Unfortunately it may seem unfair. Especially if there are a limited number of hiring spots. I have seen first hand because a friend of mines daughter was hired in a months time(minority) and another friend of mine took 12 months both were qualified but my other non-minority freind had a degree in criminal justice.
As even minded Americans we go out of our way to make things right. Even to the breaking point of reverse discrimination. We go from one extreme to the other, like whats going on now. At one point we didn't care about airport security as long as we weren't delayed. Now we went to the opposite side of the scale where we are seaching grandmothers in wheel chairs, taking personal effects like nail clippers. Not to offend our muslim friends we only search about 1 in 20 because we don't want to be racially profiling anyone.
It's out of wack but maybe one day it will be equal across the board.

[ace13]

Hey Lich,

I heard as well that the cut off mark varies depending on how many they need, and what gender/minority they need. I was told that they lower the mark for females during the RPAT because a high percentage of them are not expected to pass all the stages of the recruitment. So for example, if they have 3 spots available for women or they want to send at least 3 women, they will lower the RPAT mark until they have 10-12 females that scored high enough to do the PARE. There is a high failure rate for women at the PARE stage.

Echo13, if I were you, I'd call the recruiting dept. because there are two selection periods, April and October. So if you wrote in January, and didn't make April's selection, perhaps you will make October's selection. Either way, I'd call if I were you.

Ace13

[ECHO13]

I guess that would be the best thing to do Ace13. I'm going to drop in to see someone from recruiting at HQ in Montreal. I may even take a drive to Ottawa and snoop around down there for a day to see if I can find out anything that may set my mind at ease! It can't hurt to try anyway. I will forward the information I receive. Thanks Ace13,

ECHO13

[Hopeful]

My understanding is that you compete against your bloc on the RPAT. The blocks being: white male, female, visible minority, (native?).

If your block is not fully subscribed you would need only a pass to get in. If there are more applicants than your bloc can take then you are competing directly by mark.

So for minorities a pass is fine. At the info session the officer indicated that a bare pass does not quite do it for women any more.

So the question is: How do they determine the blocs? It seems to me their are to possibilities:

Either their current intake reflects current demographics.

Or their current intake is overweight in minorities/women. I doubt this as there would end up being a pendulum effect down the road as the older males retire.

Of course at the moment it's probably all a moot point as they are having trouble finding enough bodies of any race or gender to fill the spots. Like I keep hearing: there hasn't been a better time to become a cop since the 1970's! Hang in there everyone.

[ECHO13]

Did any of you guys have a really small group of people writing the RPAT. I wrote the test in Jan. with 6 other people and that was in Montreal. I thought that there would have been several more individuals giving it a try, especially in a large city like MTL??? Even the Cpl. supervising the exam remarked that the group was dramatically small. Was this the case elsewhere in the country? I remember last year when I lived in Whistler BC, the info. sessions in the lower mainland were all packed and I could not even attend one. Are there that many more applicants out there or what?

ECHO13

[Hopeful]

I seem to think our group had about 20. Of that number 1 is in depot and 3 of us are waiting to go. There might be one more out there that I don't know about.

[Whooaaah]

I wrote at HQ in Vancouver. There must have been at least 150 people that morning and another group later that afternoon.

[Glenn]

I wrote in Nanaimo on June 8,2002. I attended the info session and there were probably 100 in attendance. On the morning I wrote there were only 12 writing, with another class in the afternoon. A lot of people signed up to write, but few showed up to write. It was sunny out so some might have gone to the beach...who knows.
I scored a 4.29, got the results back in 6 weeks. Now waiting info package.
Remember about 50% fail the test. So the numbers drop off quickly.
And it depends on the division that you live in, etc etc. Some go through quicker than others.
Good luck.
G

[LIA]

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[LIA]

Wow, 4.29 is a great mark Glenn. I live in Ontario and wrote my test near Ottawa and got only 3.60. I don't expect to hear back because my mark is too low for sure. I wrote my test around the same time Echo 13 did in montreal. Echo 13, 3.98 is nothing to laugh at either, that is a competitive mark also! Did you hear back from recruiting yet cause I sure have not. If you don't get a package with a near 80% Echo, I don't think I will even try to write the test again. I thought the results were placed on a list from highest to lowest throughout the country and not ranked by province and gender/ethnicity? Does anybody know for sure?