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Post by guest on Nov 9, 2005 14:09:13 GMT -5
Have any of you politically correct people ever considred the risk a gay male officer poses not only to the public,but also to other officers?Lets say john gets on the force and performs his duties very well and in the meantime becomes HIV POSITIVE and is not aware of it. In that time there are a million different scenarios in which his blood could become exposed to others fights, arrests ,ect., I don't need to list them all i am sure.The fact is that a hiv positive emergency service personal put others at very grave risk,ther can be no denying that.The fact is that statistics show that on average 30 percent of gay men are HIV positive by the time they are 35 and even higher later on. I don't feel personally that gay men should be allowed to be police officers because the rislk to everbody is too great. Any thoughts?
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Post by guest2 on Nov 9, 2005 15:09:42 GMT -5
Well since I know both gay and straight people and the only HIV positive people that I know of personally are straight.... I think your point is silly.
Not to mention the fact that all members go through a thorough physical every year they are in service.
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Nov 9, 2005 15:14:33 GMT -5
Nothing like raising an old topic from the dead... Are you serious? You think only gay males get HIV? Time to come back from the past...HIV/AIDS can be transmitted and caught by anyone!. It is not a "gay" disease...I really hope you're just trying to stir the pot and you don't really believe what you are posting.
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Post by GUEST on Nov 9, 2005 15:26:56 GMT -5
I am simply pointing out the fact that this is a very real concern.I am not saying other people can't get aid but that gays are a much greater risk and danger .Thats not my idea, it is a scientific fact.I should have realized i would be demonized as some gay basher.The power of political correctness is amazing. The interviews i will not give politically correct answers and betray what i really feel because any honest person knows that all of this is true.
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Post by burner on Nov 9, 2005 15:37:59 GMT -5
With exposure to needle pricks and blood any emergency services person is at risk of contracting HIV... If it's the 'sexual' kind of HIV you're worried about recent statistics show that there is an increased risk to hedero-sexual females... I dunno, I just don't see this as an issue.
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Nov 9, 2005 15:58:44 GMT -5
I never said you were a gay basher...your original post made it sound like only gay males will get/pass HIV, I just wanted to make sure you are aware that, that is not the case...The only people at a higher risk of contracting HIV are people (gay or straight) engaging in unprotected sex and intravenus drug users...and besides there are no reliable statistics showing that there is any real risk of getting HIV, via fighting, spitting, etc.
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Post by RyanSales on Nov 9, 2005 19:14:25 GMT -5
Statistically speaking there are more heterosexual people who have HIV/AIDS than homosexuals.
SOOOOOOOOOO.......I guess the only safe thing to do then is to have all heterosexual members immediately resign for the safety of the public.
Do some research please before posting comments!
RY
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Post by wannabegendarme on Nov 9, 2005 22:54:31 GMT -5
I might also make the suggestion that the people who hide behind the "guest" header might want to sign in and post under their screen names. Come ouut and post like the brave, intelligent people we are supposed to represent. If you can't make valid points and argue them intelligently while posting under your screen name at least, maybe your point isn't so valid.. Just my 2 cents
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Post by guest on Nov 10, 2005 11:14:53 GMT -5
Ican see i'm wasting my time dealing with a bunch of politically correct brainwashed wusses who can't see past illusion and the real truth.I wonder though how many of you would partner with an aids infected individual if it came right down to it?Hypocrites!It seems gays and women have now taken over a once proud and honorable police force.WHY NOT JUST BARR NORMAL STRAIGHT MALES TOTALLY?
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Post by wannabegendarme on Nov 10, 2005 11:58:38 GMT -5
It seems that our "guest" (one to whom we extend courtesy and kindness), has a few more biases than we can help with here. And to answer his question - yes I would partner with someone HIV positive. I work with someone right now who is. I wouldn't be engaging in high risk behaviour with them anyway.
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Post by concerned on Feb 7, 2006 12:06:48 GMT -5
Has anyone ever been polygraphed outright or directly asked their sexual orientation?If so, did you feel under a compulsion to do so?
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Feb 7, 2006 13:29:06 GMT -5
Has anyone ever been polygraphed outright or directly asked their sexual orientation?If so, did you feel under a compulsion to do so? Labour laws prevent the asking of those types of questions...
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Post by Cpl mike returns on Feb 9, 2006 6:29:31 GMT -5
"concerned"- why would you CLAIM to be gay, then claim you are not a "SISSY" ?? isn't that sterotypical??? I cannot understand why people still make this an issue when 1/10 people are gay.Maybe here in the U.S. where people are less educated ( yes 1/3 Americans is functionally illiterate) would you have abuse based on ignorance, but I find that there is derisiveness in the Gay community also.as a "boringly" hetero man, I see far too many "whimpy" or "sissy" STRAIGHT guys that shouldn't be in uniform because they are" Cowards," not becuase of their mannerisms- is that what you mean? Your sex life is your business, and no- nobody can "tell" you are gay unless you go out of your way to advertise it- it is insulting as telling someone like me " to ACT BLACK"-WTF???!!! Act like a Proud "man"- mature,hard working,respectful of others in the community, and nobody will give you crap-asking for a place that doesn't "discriminate", is not asking for "fair and respectful" treatment- its asking for an environment that will liberally tolerate ANYTHING (poor behavior, loose standards,laissez faire discipline system).An officer is expected to control his/her behavior at all times, straight or gay.I once had a fellow officer that felt that he could dye his hair platinum blond (he was asian) and wear make up- when told it was against dept policy( the make up) he claimed it was harassment 'cause he was GAY !!!!(forgot that there was a prohibition against excessive make up for the female officers also). you can't make anybody politically correct, but thru professional and tempered behavior ,you can gain respect- the Dept has policy against abuse and I guarantee you that they enforce it just as any Gov't entity does.........
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Post by CONCERNED on Feb 9, 2006 10:38:39 GMT -5
I agree with you mike 100%!It is sometimes very embarrassing when i see members of the gay community claim they are being harrassed (less respectable members i might add!)or discriminated against because they feel they have a right to engage in public sex in parks or other places.As a police officer i would be the first one to place them under arrest.There is,unfortunatley,a certain (I believe small number) who think they should have the right to do what ever they please and then cry harrassment aganist the police.It is very ebarrassing to the rest of us!
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Post by JACK on Jun 21, 2006 21:19:29 GMT -5
So,have you guys heard about the 2 male RCMP officers who are getting married in Nova Scotia at the end of June?Congradulations to Const. Jason tree and Const.David Conners.I wish them all the happiness and a wonderfull life together. ;D
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