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Post by Ds Wife on Mar 7, 2004 23:31:08 GMT -5
Hi all,
Has anyone taken the PARE at the YMCA in Vancouver, BC? My question is...do they allow people to observe the test runs when they are not running that day? My husband would like to watch the runs the week before he goes but can't get a hold of the person that can actually answer that question at the Y.
Also, does anyone know the actual distance of the course? I know the map is on the CPS site but it dosen't give any info about the distance. And the controlled fall....what's that? Do you just hit the ground up and down 4 times in a row with the push/pull and after the hurdle or is there a technique you should use?
I appreciate any informaton anyone can offer whether you've run the PARE for RCMP or CPS.
Thanks,
D's Wife
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Post by crappydk2 on Mar 8, 2004 0:32:55 GMT -5
If your husband phones the YMCA he can take a practice run, or as many practice runs he wants. It costs money though. They are run every Sunday morning and anyone can attend to observe. I would highly recommend it.
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Post by DaveTO on Mar 8, 2004 2:39:04 GMT -5
The total distance is about 400m, but it's harder than just running a quarter-mile track, because there are lots of starts and stops and 90 degree direction changes.
The controlled fall is just what it seems. The runner has to move from the standing position to a position where either their abs (front fall) or shoulders (back fall) touch the mat. Nothing really complicated, just remember to keep those ab muscles in shape. I heard something about someone using a tae-kwon-do roll over the hurdle into the controlled fall to save themselves a couple of seconds, but I don't recommend it.
One tip...make sure your husband sucks a Halls lozenge before running the PARE. Otherwise, he'll have PARE cough for the next couple of days.
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Post by YC on Mar 8, 2004 13:50:18 GMT -5
Ds wife,
Instead of watch, I would highly recommend your husband to run it. Most guy in my class run it and pass it no problem. As long as his cardio is good, shouldn't be a big problem. But go and run it, I used to think I want to watch first because I am afraid of it. But now, not anymore! Good luck!
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Mar 8, 2004 14:53:14 GMT -5
Ds wife, Instead of watch, I would highly recommend your husband to run it. Most guy in my class run it and pass it no problem. As long as his cardio is good, shouldn't be a big problem. But go and run it, I used to think I want to watch first because I am afraid of it. But now, not anymore! Good luck! While I agree with what YC is saying (How things going anyways Chris??) I would recomend watching a PARE first. You wouldn't believe how much it reduces your anxiety towards running it after you watch and see how easy it really is (kinda). By all means though if he's still nervous then spend the $50 and do a practice run first it WILL NOT hurt him and WILL help run the real one. The PARE is something that gets easier every time you do it. |
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Post by Ds Wife on Mar 9, 2004 21:52:08 GMT -5
I'd imagine that they keep your medical authorization form when you complete the PARE, or do they give it back to you? The reason I ask is that that signature on that form cost us $20. and I was thinking it may be best to take in a copy if they were going to keep it, just in case you have to run it a second time. Anyone who's ran it more than once, did you have to get a second doctor's form filled out or did you keep the original?
Thanks for the help,
D's Wife
PS: I don't know why doctor's think that their signature on a form is worth $20. when they're getting paid for you being there in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by MALAKA on Mar 9, 2004 23:47:12 GMT -5
I am not sure how Vancouver would process the PARE documents. Here in Calgary, I always had to give the original to the administrators. I believe if you run again within 1 month then the physician's document is just pulled from the file, and there is no need to get another authorization. This happened to a friend of mine, in Calgary though.
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Mar 10, 2004 10:35:29 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that you will have to get a med clearance signed each time you run, since the clearance is only good for 6 months, just like the PARE results.  Had a guy I know just go a do his PARE again and he had to get the clearance redone. Never understood why Dr's charge for those notes either. At least my Dr doesn't charge...yet  |
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Post by guest on Mar 11, 2004 18:12:54 GMT -5
I have run the PARE 2 times at the Y. The air is terrible there. Anyways there is always friends/family cheering their loved ones on. There has always been people watching and shouldn't be a problem.
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Post by YC on Mar 11, 2004 18:28:56 GMT -5
Ds wife, Yeah the doctor spend less than 5 minutes, asked me a bunch of questions and signed the form without knowing my medical history.Way to go for the Medical Services in B.C!  I would suggest that you keep a copy of that medical form.For example,if I am to run the POPAT with the VPD today,they have my medical clearance,so I guess if I apply somewhere else,they can use my result and clearance as well. YC |
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Post by Friday on May 8, 2004 0:00:31 GMT -5
Just to add, the PARE note (PAR-Q) from the doctor says it is good for 1 year, but the PARE cert itself is only good for 6 months (just re-ran Thursday and start Tuesday).
However, they DID send me another PAR-Q which I got filled out by my family Dr anyway - who didn't charge me anything. Re-running the PARE when requested by the RCMP does not cost any money - you only pay for the first one. Whatever practice setup the Y is running there would be their deal.
Being in good aerobic shape will definately help your recovery time - but the PARE turns anaerobic fairly quickly if you are going hard. You could click off 40 seconds laps all day, but < 25 second laps and your body is exceeding aerobic capacity - like a sprint.
I find that incorporating wind sprints into your routine is more effective than straight endurance. ie, a run/sprint 100M, jog 200M routine will get you further than a straight 2KM jog. But, a pure cardio routine is better than no routine.
Doing falls is another great way to get ready. Go down flat on your chest - get up and stand straight, go down shoulders flat on your back - get up and stand straight. To get the legs in shape, do some jump rope, or run stairs. There are so many sharp direction changes, so work in some lateral movement to keep your ankles sturdy. I've seen lots of people jump the pit, and not be stable before taking that sharp left turn... my first PARE I actually did 2 foot landings over the pit jump, just to be sure.
Our PARE instructor would not allow hurdling the horse directly into a fall. Feet had to hit first, then you could hit the mat. It is easy to make it one fluid motion though - but no landing on your arms first (ouch!)
You have to hit at least one step on the way up, take at least one step on the top, and at least one step on the way down the stairs. It helps to pick a pattern and stick to it, so on the later laps you don't get tripped up trying to figure out which foot goes where.
You might want to avoid eating much in the few hours preceeding the PARE - some folks feel like barfing after. As crazy as the PARE pushes you, you should have a good recovery in 5 minutes, and be baseline in 15 minutes. Don't drink coffee, coke, or take ephedra and anything like that before the test - it will raise your BP and pulse which will lengthen your recovery (if you ever even get back to normal BP)
Good luck!
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Post by Dot on Jun 4, 2004 9:46:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the tip, DaveTO! I will pass that one on to my dh for the next PARE he has to run (next time as a member!! ;D
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Post by etowougoderel on Apr 21, 2019 8:04:07 GMT -5
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Post by apiroyupox on Apr 21, 2019 10:05:30 GMT -5
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Had a guy I know just go a do his PARE again and he had to get the clearance redone.
