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Post by SHAKER on May 30, 2003 13:47:47 GMT -5
Hi, I am new to this board and new to the idea of policing. I have had numerous security jobs and want to take the next step. Does anyone know if joining the OPP auxilary program helps your chances with that department or any other police organization for that matter? Thanks, SHAKER
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Post by Marcus on May 31, 2003 21:42:21 GMT -5
The auxilary question Shaker,
If you are a good auxilary then the experience will benefit you a lot. However, if you make some errors, some poor judgements, or other mistakes, this can make you look bad, and not help as a reference. As a regular member learning, mistakes will happen, but you get sooooo much more opportunity to correct your style, knowledge, etc. It is expected that you will make mistakes in hte beginning. However, as an auxilary your exposure and chance to learn from your mistakes is not as great, thus you won't learn as quickly and look as competent. Another disadvantage is that you ride with different members, thus the one you make an error in judgement with may not see your improvemnts over time. Opposed to a recruit that has his/her field trainer there all the time to see you improve and working at your weak areas. I know of two auxilary members that didn't make the interview for regular member.
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Post by Scool191 on Jun 2, 2003 6:01:18 GMT -5
Try to become a reserve instead.
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Post by guest on Jun 20, 2003 8:09:32 GMT -5
i think auxiliary is great. you get to volunteer with an actual agency and get to know the job from the inside before you really commit to anything. joining an aux. can help you make that final step to becoming a regular member. i don't see how it can hurt unless you are reckless or something. you can also make good connections from the inside which may give you an edge in the recruiting process and some more life experience and volunteer work to say the least. is opp an ontario agency, I'm from Atlanta.
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Post by journey2cps-redux on Jun 20, 2003 15:57:36 GMT -5
OPP is the "Ontario Provincial Police" not to be confused with the song by Naughty by Nature... ;D
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Post by Glenn on Jun 20, 2003 17:35:58 GMT -5
I am a reserve constable with the local police department in my area. I have had some great experiences being out on patrol with the department. I have also had very good reports on myself from the regular members. They do one after every shift that I am on and it goes into my file.
So it can work either way. If you are a screw up, it may or probably will hurt you when they do the background checks. I am currently in the rcmp process, my file manager knows what kind of training that I went through to become a reserve constable. I have full uniform etc, except a firearm. Which I was trained on last weekend. The police issue 12 guage shotgun and the Glock 22 model used by the department. Nice firearm. I believe that being a reserve constable has helped me a great deal and will help me full fill my goal to become a mountie.
I feel at home when I am out on patrol or doing paper work at the department. Being in the muster room piror to the shift is a great feeling. Its like I was meant to be a police officer, it feels right...
Just waiting for the call for my selection interview with the rcmp.
My time line:
June 2002 wrote rpat
July 2002 recieved results of rpat...4.29/5.00
Nov 2002 recieved package
Nov 2002 ran pare....3.24
Nov 2002 handed in package.
Jan 2003 contacted by E division, package opened everything ok
Apirl 2003 phone call to arrange security interview
Apirl 2003 passed security interview.
June 2003 handed in financial papers on house etc..
June 2003 waiting for selection interview.
So thats where I stand....waiting....
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Post by therecruit1 on Jun 20, 2003 20:28:59 GMT -5
I think it is a good way to gain experience and exposes you to what law enforcement is all about. It can also help you decide whether or not you are cut out for this kind of work.
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Post by AuxSgt82 on Jun 20, 2003 22:25:47 GMT -5
I am currently a Sgt with my cities Auxiliary Police Department (City of 35,000 in NY). I joined when I graduated from Highschool at 18. I am currently 20 (21 next month). Joining the Aux. Police while attending college fulltime was probably one of the best decisions I made.
Just alittle background on our program. We are one of the most active Aux. Depts in the state (outside NYC). We do uniformed vehicle patrols (we have our own marked patrol cars) on Friday and Saturday Nights (and when assigned). We work special details such as parades, crowd control for concerts, traffic control etc (average about 15-20 hours a week)... We have a very close working relationship with the full time officers (numbering about 55). We provide assistance to the full time officers on a routine basis and the desk does not have any second thoughts about dispatching us to non-priority calls (Do not want us to go to violent calls such as domestics) when they are tied up.
Since we have such a close relationship, we are on a first name basis with many officers. Now, to tie into your question of does it help your chances. If you know your roll out there that you are not a first line responder, are extra eyes and ears and you do not crowd the regular officers at calls then you'll do just fine. In my Aux. Dept, there are about 7 active people whom are in the hunt for full time positions in L.E. At times, it is very competative and mistakes are scrutinized a great deal. You need to have your act together when you are out there or word travels quickly. Now I dont like this, but it is what you get for having a relatively small dept.
I took the civil service exam for my city and after one year on the waiting list was called for a full time position. One of the hardest decisions I had to make was to pass up a full time job starting at $39,000.00 to finish college. I felt that was more important. I still have a few years left in college and am in no hurry to get a job (in NY you have until 37).
I can't tell you how much this has done for me personally. I have seen so much. This has really opened my eyes to the criminal justice system. I feel once I get a job full time that this will have helped me a great deal.
There are a few times I have encountered some of the senior officers who feel that we are trying to take their jobs away (non- union etc...). That goes back to know your roll and do what is expected of you and you'll do just fine. I highly recommend joining your local Aux. Dept. Your community will thank you.
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Post by SHAKER on Jun 22, 2003 8:55:12 GMT -5
Thanks everyone for the info. I guess it can't hurt if you are determined and do the best job that you can.
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Post by Eric on Jul 11, 2003 21:38:55 GMT -5
I am about to hand in my application for the Auxiliary Constable Position with the OPP in Ottawa and I had a few questions I would love answered. I need to submit at least 4 character references as part of my application. I was wondering who I should include in the list. Are they looking for spouses, long time friends, etc?
Also if anyone has any information on the auxiliary program here in Ottawa I would love te hear from you.
Thanks
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Post by OPP on Jul 12, 2003 6:13:33 GMT -5
Does anyone know the difference between an auxiliary Cst. and a cadet? The job description seems to be the same. At least with regards to the OPP. Or do cadets make a salary which seems to be the only differnce.
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Post by DaveTO on Jul 12, 2003 11:59:24 GMT -5
Eric, I'm pretty sure that they will say that references must be unrelated to you. Good references include: past employers/co-workers, teachers, neighbours, volunteer supervisors, close friends, police officers
OPP, cadet is a paid position. Aux. officer is a volunteer position. Auxiliary officer has peace officer status when they are with a constable.
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