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Post by Tob2 on Feb 7, 2003 22:21:40 GMT -5
What!!! Either you're leaving something out or your previous employer is OFF THE HOOK!!
Did you have an annual performance evaluation? How was it? What was the "official" reason for your leaving? If it was a termination, and you have a little $$ in the account you may want to get an attny. Why? Because, if your performance eval was good and you have no other disciplinary probs (which was suggested by your post) AND depending on what state you live in, you may be able to get them to change the official reason for your leaving.
Preface: I'm NOT currently in LE.
I think terminations are always bad. Recent terminations are worse. However, the reason for your stated dismissal is quite bogus.
Hope this is helpful. Tob2
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Post by BuB on Feb 8, 2003 15:09:06 GMT -5
Sorry ,but your story sounds shaky! True that some companies will terminate at will- but that extra hours issue is considered theft(I know a friends mother was fired from LA School PD for falsifying her O.T. hours!) It seems that it would take more than one instance and why didn't they ask you what happened?if it was an error, they could have easily" shorted" your next check to make it up. I'm applying for Santa Monica CA PD , and they are very thorough about such issues( my background investigator interviewed that friend of mines Ex-Police officer mom and even found out about when some of my co-workers and I broke liqour bottles on purpose at the Ralphs grocery store I worked at 4 yrs ago!!!).All I'm saying is that issues of "theft" look bad and I'd fight to get my name cleared by that former employer first before I(you) apply anywhere. As for the broken liqour bottle issue that I did as a P/T clerk-I had to pay for the damaged stock(in lieu of suspension or termination) ,but then again, I was 17 yrs old......
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Post by lich on Feb 8, 2003 15:52:50 GMT -5
If I had to venture a guess, I'd say we're not just seeing the facts. You would have to fail to notice the error in your own pay stub every pay period over 1.5 years. Let's say you're making six dollars an hour. Three hours overtime (at 1.5 times base pay) over 1.5 years is $2193.75. Chances are you made even more.
It's a considerable amount of money and you would need to be an otherwise outstanding candidate to have a department willing to overlook the issue. I'm sure the issue would come up in the background investigation, and non-conviction aside, the facts of the case and the way you've presented it are going to make the department wary of your ability to handle the responsibility of being a police officer.
However, if you are sure you want to be an officer and are willing to take every step possible to become one, do whatever you can to make yourself an otherwise outstandind candidate. Maybe learn another language and perform plenty of community service.
Good luck.
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Post by lich on Feb 9, 2003 22:32:27 GMT -5
Getting back to your original questions, I don't think your chances are automatically ruined. Convictions automatically disqualify applicants. As far as answering interview questions, just tell the complete truth. I'm not suggesting you're lying, I'm suggesting you might be tempted to summarize the events to get through this part of the questioning more quickly. The story is complicated. I would recommend practicing a way of telling it in its entireity, so any person hearing it for the first time would understand it as it happened, without making the sort of mistake I did in reading your post. Three total hours versus three hours per pay period is significant.
Remember, it might take a few tries to get hired at any department, no matter how spotless your record. Don't give up.
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