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Post by Cpl Mike on Jul 10, 2002 3:36:42 GMT -5
By now I'm sure most of you must have seen the video clip of the Inglewood CA PD officer bouncing a a Blk Teenager off the back of the patrol car , then "sucker punch" him. Alot of back yard ACLU and street corner "community activitists" are trying to make it out as if its the second "Rodney King" incident,but it is not-there was no racism involved, only a rookie officer with poor decision making, and lack of supervision.The media latches on to whatever it can to make officers look bad(Bashing the "MAN" is always a good thing, btwn advertising slots), but to any of you "2bes" and current officers I urge you to use common sense-That young officer is probably going to lose his job and a lot worse under todays political climate.Nobody is going to care about what a suspect does to you(except your friends,partners , and family) but they will always remember you roughing up "that helpless kid(AKA local Gang banger) or the poor ol' guy (AKA parolee at large)".I know that I can't say I've never seen that happen before in 13yrs on patrol, but It isn't worth it , nor is it right . Remember we "beat" them by putting them behind bars,issuing those pesky and expensive citations, and impounding their cars when they forget that lil' ol' issue of suspended license, and when we continue to patrol in front of the dope spot and burn their sales! you can't take it personally when you wear the uniform(despite the frustration),because in todays society where everything is measured by politcal correctness , the prison issue is doled out to both crooks and cops that stray- good luck to all of you on the way "2 being" .....  |
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Post by Drakor on Jul 10, 2002 15:14:58 GMT -5
 I told my family what really happened is.... this teen was a bit resistant and not fully understanding his situtation fought the police officers. Joe public saw the first stuggle to get him in cuffs and pulled out his video camera after said teen was in cuffs. Teen was still resisting when they went to place him on the back of the cruiser for the search of his person. As the teen was resisting he gave in to the fact that he wasn't going anywhere rested his body. Using the same force during the struggle Officer Friendly place this teen on the trunk the same time as the teen gave in..... Hence the slamming effect. Raising his head as if to say...... at the same time the officer was using an arm bar to subdue the teen on the car. The teen head came up the same time creating a shorter distance hence the officer looked like he punched the teen but was actually mid arm bar. Now if Joe public wasn't so interested in having his 15 minutes he would testify to what happened. Of course I haven't seen the video..... I could be wrong....
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Post by Drakor on Jul 10, 2002 15:15:23 GMT -5
I told my family what really happened is.... this teen was a bit resistant and not fully understanding his situtation fought the police officers. Joe public saw the first stuggle to get him in cuffs and pulled out his video camera after said teen was in cuffs. Teen was still resisting when they went to place him on the back of the cruiser for the search of his person. As the teen was resisting he gave in to the fact that he wasn't going anywhere rested his body. Using the same force during the struggle Officer Friendly place this teen on the trunk the same time as the teen gave in..... Hence the slamming effect. Raising his head as if to say...... at the same time the officer was using an arm bar to subdue the teen on the car. The teen head came up the same time creating a shorter distance hence the officer looked like he punched the teen but was actually mid arm bar. Now if Joe public wasn't so interested in having his 15 minutes he would testify to what happened. Of course I haven't seen the video..... I could be wrong....
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Post by Drakor on Jul 14, 2002 19:55:49 GMT -5
I saw the video...... that officer made a two second decision that will cost him his career.
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Post by Charlie on Jul 16, 2002 11:11:42 GMT -5
ALL--If I may interject my thoughts on this..... I have not sat down and seen the entire video but I have heard a lot of things that are supposedly factual concerning the video from my co-workers (as I am sure many of you have as well). Regardless of what is said, (and to add a little more to what Cpl. Mike said about this), trial by media is a realisitic possibility any of you LEO's or any "2be" may face in their careers. Especially if the incident crosses the racial lines.  If there is one thing I would want anyone to come away with, it's this: What you may have seen on the video concerning this incident "looks bad" but are you aware of any and all facts and/or information concerning this incident?  I don't think any of us here are. I suspect there is the possibility that there is more than what meets the eye with this incident. AND frankly, I have a lot of skepticism towards most anything the media puts out and tries to sell us as Gospel....especially when it comes to LE related stories.  Unfortunately, Joe or Jane Q. Public already has formulated their premature opinions thanks to the media maggots.  IF, AFTER A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION, it is determined the officer(s) did indeed do wrong, then they have what's coming to them. Throw the book at 'em. But media induced lynch-mob, we're going to "burn down the town if we don't get our way" justice in most definitely not the answer. Charlie |
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Post by Drakor on Jul 16, 2002 16:05:18 GMT -5
;DI agree....I agree with you Charlie and I also concer that too many things are decided thru the media. Unfortunately for the officer involved his case is already been tried, realistically there should be a investigation, but to many departments hate a negative public image and to cool the heat they will most likely fired that officer so the department can say "to the media" we fired him,  saving what little face they have with the media. I also like to point out that most departments have a 2 year probation period and they can terminate your employment without any reason( Most will tell you). I feel for the officer involved, I really do and had it not been on video and had it not been a white officer on a black teen then it would have been probaly a normal apprehension. It kills me that the first thing people do is scream racism. When all it is, is a case of a teen being hard headed about listening to the police. "yes sir officer you want me to tap dance, singing the oscar meyer song with a water melon in one hand", and so on. Whats so hard about that command? ;D ;D |
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Post by Hopeful on Jul 18, 2002 12:14:38 GMT -5
I saw the video of the end of the thing and feel that the officer throwing a couple of punches into a cuffed dude was clearly unjustified.
I guess that's why forces look for people who can take abuse and hold their emotions under control.
Although unfortunate for the officer involved; it is a good learning experience for the rest of us.
Be proffessional, don't lose it and always assume that there could be a camera out there.
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I told my family what really happened is.... this teen was a bit resistant and not fully understanding his situtation fought the police officers. Joe public saw the first stuggle to get him in cuffs and pulled out his video camera after said teen was in cuffs. Teen was still resisting when they went to place him on the back of the cruiser for the search of his person. As the teen was resisting he gave in to the fact that he wasn't going anywhere rested his body. Using the same force during the struggle Officer Friendly place this teen on the trunk the same time as the teen gave in..... Hence the slamming effect. Raising his head as if to say...... at the same time the officer was using an arm bar to subdue the teen on the car. The teen head came up the same time creating a shorter distance hence the officer looked like he punched the teen but was actually mid arm bar. Now if Joe public wasn't so interested in having his 15 minutes he would testify to what happened. 
I don't think any of us here are. I suspect there is the possibility that there is more than what meets the eye with this incident. AND frankly, I have a lot of skepticism towards most anything the media puts out and tries to sell us as Gospel....especially when it comes to LE related stories. 
Unfortunately, Joe or Jane Q. Public already has formulated their premature opinions thanks to the media maggots. 
saving what little face they have with the media. I also like to point out that most departments have a 2 year probation period and they can terminate your employment without any reason( Most will tell you).