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Post by Epoxy7 on Oct 25, 2002 4:15:28 GMT -5
After reading another post by "John Smith" good one by the way. I have to ask, I've seen a lot of messages for the RCMP, but not much on the security/interview. I'm curious, how many people have admitted to multiple past misdeeds, how long ago, and of what nature? I have a few, and I'm worried that this will completely disqualify me from becomming an RCMP officer. I just received my application package today. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please be honest, about this. Ie I'd like to hear about people who had multiple mistakes and still made it in/at least to the background check. PS I don't mean about "the time when you were two that you stole a pen". I'm curious to know if people with real lives have gotten in, when comming clean on past mistakes. Thanks.
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Post by Epoxy7 on Oct 30, 2002 4:24:30 GMT -5
Ya, I didn't think so. Oh well, I'll just take my chances.
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Post by guest on Oct 30, 2002 18:54:42 GMT -5
Don't "come clean" as you put it, for anything more than petty childhood mistakes and misdimeanors that happend years and years ago. Make sure you say you now know it was wrong and have cetainly learned from my mistakes and regret doing those things. You admit to anything more than that and you will be screwed. The quality of RCMP cadets has been diminishing for the last couple of years based on lower applicant numbers and this bull &*(^ belief that the government needs the police force population to represent the population of canada as a whole (affirmative action/discrimination against white males). They wont think twice about defering you and chosing a less qualified applicant regardless of how clean and great you look now. I came clean thinking that is what they want and got nailed for it. Tell them what they want to hear short of ommiting things they may find during a background search. Don't make their job easy for them by knocking yourself out of the competition before you even run the race. I personally know of a few RCMP members that are now full members whose pasts are more than shaky but they did not spill the beans. EX. one guy who had a past of assault but never got charged/caught. One who was previously addicted to perscription meds but never said that to the rcmp. Also, if you have applied to other forces and think you may have been defered from them for whatever reason you may want to concider withholding that info in your package. The force you applied to before, and may have defered you, will never tell you the real reason for your deferal whether it be legitimate or falsified (polygraph fabrications. Read the info on polys). You, being the honest person you are, tell the rcmp that you have applied to these other forces in the past. The rcmp call the forces inquiring about your reason for deferal, the lying force tells the rcmp their "real"/fabricated reason for your deferal and you are screwed. As you can tell that happened to me. I should have taken my chances and lied about applying to the past forces. I don't think the rcmp does background searches that in depth? I could be wrong. Good luck.
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Post by Epoxy7 on Oct 30, 2002 19:16:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Guest. I'm not too worried about that. But the wrinkle for me is that this is the second time around. With a year and a half I've remembered some stuff that I didn't mention the first time. Not because I was trying to be dishonest, but because I was unprepared. I'm going to come clean on this (long time ago stuff). If they DQ me then so be it. They'd probably find it out in a background check anyways. If thats the case then ok, I'll try for municipal. I can't get too excited about anything with the RCMP these days. When I get the notice to pack up for depot, then I'll get excited. Right now, I haven't even bothered telling my parents that I made the application cut. Last time I felt like a loser for being deffered. I don't plan on going through that again. So if I'm DQ'd then at least no one else will know about it.
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Post by Canadian on Oct 31, 2002 2:42:41 GMT -5
About that remark of not a very thorough background check, I disagree. A friend of mine is in depot right now, and they checked his neighbors and the guy at the gas station.....
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Post by Glenn on Oct 31, 2002 3:40:08 GMT -5
They checked the gas station..man that must be one small town where that boy came from. They do check out your neighbours, that I do know. Hopefully we get along with the people who live beside us...lol
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Post by Epoxy7 on Nov 2, 2002 1:04:41 GMT -5
Heheh, I don't even know the people that live beside me. I work graveyard shifts so I never see them. The good thing is they can't say anything bad about me. The building supervisors like me so thats good (no problems with rent or anything else, I'm a model tenant ). Were the police will get their real information is with ex's. IE , ex friends, girlfriends etc. This is were the dirt and all those skeletons in your closet will come from. I've had over a year and a half to think about my last interview, and there are some things that I didn't mention. Now that I remember them I'll be mentioning it, with the full expectation of being DQ'd. This is pretty much why I'm not particularly excited about an interview. But at least I can hold my head high, and hopefully that will count with a municipal police department. I have to say that I would be proud to become an RCMP officer, but on the other hand I have a pretty good idea of the reality of the job versus the fable or romanticized view. IE people calling you a pig, spitting on you, not doing what you ask, puking on you, drunk disorderly, domestic desputes were the children are in a crappy situation etc. I know exactly what I'd be getting into. It's a great opportunity but there is one hell of a price to pay. Nobody likes the police. Everybody seems to think they know your job and how you should be doing it. I've had a taste of this just working as a night auditor at a hotel. I get the wonderful job of kicking people out, telling them I'm not willing to rent a room to them etc. You wouldn't believe all the problems that go on. I'm guesing that it's a lot worse as a cop. Just something to keep in mind.
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Post by Epoxy7 on Nov 2, 2002 1:09:24 GMT -5
Almost forgot, it's Employment Equity in Canada (this is for guest). Affirmative Action is the US title. While I don't agree with a set quota, I do admit that there is definately a use/need for officers that can speak certain minority languages. I know one Van pd officer who is a member of a minority group, speaks this language as well as English, has a university degree, and is built like an Ox. I have to say that I'd hire him over me any day. It's always the best idea to hire the best, regardless of race/gender etc.
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