What do you do?

[fedup]

I still think you should try again anyway.You have more commitment than anyone on this site.Maybe you will get a more enlighted person the next time.

[journey2cps-redux]

I'm going to keep trying, just not with the RCMP...nothing is ever 100% but I think I'll look at Calgary, Regina or Saskatoon instead, those would be my top 3 choices but there are lots of other services all over the country, so who knows. Whoever says yes will have me for my entire career.

[fedup]

GOOD FOR YOU!But I still have not changed my opinion on recruters though.Sometimes,maybe many times in life it is the people with the not so perfect backgrounds that make the most honest,decent cops. One most go through some things in life to grow up,learn the value of hard work,and become stronger both in morals and convictions and honestly, I don't think that most recruiters can see past that!They harp on the bad while overelooking all the good.Meanwhile the one with a perfect shiny resume may be the last human on earth who should become a cop.

[journey2cps-redux]

fedup said:

Sometimes,maybe many times in life it is the people with the not so perfect backgrounds that make the most honest,decent cops. One most go through some things in life to grow up,learn the value of hard work,and become stronger both in morals and convictions and honestly, I don't think that most recruiters can see past that!They harp on the bad while overelooking all the good.Meanwhile the one with a perfect shiny resume may be the last human on earth who should become a cop.

I will agree with that 110%. Most people with a squeaky clean background, lack the understanding for a lot of situations they will deal with as an officer, and only see things in black and white. Since they have never experienced a similar situation, they tend to have less discression OR they tend to be over-trusting...Of course these are the same people that either get promoted to a white shirt or they burn out and quit in less than 5 years.

[Steve]

Since all different types of people get in through the same recruiter allll the time (with and without perfect shiny resumes), I don't think your ideas of what goes on make much common sense.

It would be great if recruiters could actually just come out and explain to you all the reasons of why they are not recommending you for hire. Obviously a lot of the time they go with one general excuse and tell you to try again.... when there is obviously more to the deferral.

First Journey was deferred for his bankruptcy reasons and the next time they had another excuse. Just maybe, there is something in his personality that isn't coming across well? If he is such a wonderful applicant then he would have been snapped up by a force by now.

Journey - If CPS deferrs you again as well, will you again change your mind about who you want to work for? You have the dedication and drive, now just look within and try to work on the whole package you are offering. You'll get there.

[journey2cps-redux]

Thanks for your input Steve. I like hearing contructive insights from others. Yes, recruiters are a mysterious bunch, and anyone who is not a recruiter will have no idea what actually goes on behind the curtain, so to speak. The problem I had with my deferal from the RCMP was that the reasons stated were for things that happened 8-10 years ago. So if that shows that my personality may not be what the RCMP are looking for then WHY did they not even bother to talk to all my references, or even get other names to talk to from my references? If they are concerned about my past then talk to the people in my present about who I am now. I understand that this is a costly thing to do, though and why bother when someone else doesn't need the extra "leg work"...as I said earlier, I am glad I was defered by the RCMP, I just don't think I would have been happy with them, and that wouldn't be fair to the RCMP or myself. They are still a great organization, just not for me.
As for CPS, and being defered again, IF it happens, then I'll deal with it and look at other services or options. In the meantime I have some other irons in the fire so I'll just see what happens.
Once agian, thanks your your honest input Steve. It is appreciated.

[RyanSales]

Hey all,

Don't get too caught up on your backgrounds and thinking the forces only hire squeeky clean folks. A lot of current police officers had anything but "squeeky clean" pasts. The force is looking for the best of the best, but they are also looking for people with life experience, and people who have done wrong, identified the fact, and shown that they have moved their life in a positive direction.

When I ask collegues who had deferals what they think about the deferal, they are almost always glad for them, and realize they were an excellent time to develop themselves. People who want to be police officers tend to want it REALLY bad...have no idea why this job gets us so addicted to it, but it does. The problem is, sometimes the job isn't ready for us, or we REALLY aren't ready for the job.

Take deferals as a ____ year training break to polish up on skills and experiences. When the force is ready to hire you, they will!

Steve's comments are totally correct regarding looking beyond what the stated reason's for deferals are. I give you an example. Joe Blow is immature and maybe not at 100% integrity. He applies. The recruiter is concerned about the integrity and maturity. So he tells Joe he's immature and lacks integrity.

How positive is that? Is Joe going to go out and work on developing himself? NO! He's going to say F you and walk away.

Now, the same recruiter tells Joe that he is defering him for 2 years due to life experience. He tells Joe to go out and volunteer and take some training courses. So, Joe says "I need to get some life experience" and volunteers. Through that volunteering he gains maturity. He demonstrates, through his volunteering and training, that he has attained that 100% required for integrity. Without even knowing it, Joe has developed himself into what the recruiter was looking for, and he didn't even know it!

All I can say in closing is sorry for such a long post, and to keep trying! If the job is meant for you, and you are meant for the job, it'll happen!!!

RY

[Steve]

Well put Ryan.

Journey, thanks for reading my post with an open mind. I understand your issues with your last deferral but again, I think it would be helpful for you to look beyond 'the stated reasons'.

Also, keep an open mind regarding reapplying to the forces that have deferred you. You won't be punishing them but more than likely you could miss out on some greater opportunities.

Good Luck

[journey2cps-redux]

I agree about looking beyond the stated reasons. I think what was lacking on my part was a solid demonstration of how I learned from the past mistakes, and this is a lesson I will use with any future applications.
In regards to re-applying with the RCMP, isn't about me wanting to "punish" them, it's about looking at the job through a RM's eyes...I just don't feel that the RCMP would be good fit for me right now, and I'd hate to waste their time and resources for me to not like the job after 6 months and say I'm outta here.

[KDIVBRO]

KDIVBRO said:

starting the corrections canada course on oct 31. STILLLL waiting on the mounties. One year this month.

Im in- May 28th, So it was a year and a half. Just gotta renew my CPR and redo the PARE......no probs!

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